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I have been actively emailing my state delegates and Senators here in VA, once a day at the most. Google/Gmail kicked back all my emails and locked me out from sending any emails yesterday. They have instituted a reputation system for GMAIL. Keith is a gmail account rep, this is in response to a similar problem to mine.
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
I pay for Reagan.com. I've been using it since 2012 and am pretty happy with it. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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When I was looking into this a few years ago, Proton Mail, developed at CERN, looked like a good bet for secure e-mail. However I stuck with Apple Mail as it appears to be well encrypted, and Apple is staking their reputation on privacy of their customers. I’m trying to get Google out of my life as much as possible. _________________________ “ What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.”— Lord Melbourne | |||
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For the short term, i am trying protonmail. I am interested in Reagan.com also | |||
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I’ve been happy with Fastmail. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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^^^^^^^^ Me too. I’ve used FastMail exclusively since 2002. Superb spam filtering. Your choice of IMAP or POP3 download protocols. Very reliable service. $20/year over those long years. FastMail recently raised the price to $25/year, but still easily worth it to me. Many of my accounts have my email address as the Username, so its good to have a stable email address. Serious about crackers | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
I am with Hushmail, but I pay $25 per month for 5 addresses. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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Check out netaddress.com It’s run by BAE Systems and you can get a cool “usa.net” domain like mine. Very secure and reasonably priced. Not the most modern interface, but it works well. I’ve been happy with them for over (or almost - don’t remember exactly) 20 years. -Rob I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888 A=A | |||
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Sorry, but free email accounts like GMail - or any of them including Yahoo, AOL, Hotmail, Outlook, Mac - are absolutely not designed to send bulk email. You can probably get away with putting 25 or 35 into a BCC field, but if you do that you can be assured your email will be blocked or sent to the spam folder of the receiving email server. If you do this every day, you'll get flagged as a spammer or an email abuser. That's what happened to you. Now on to the political side of this... Congress-critters and state reps will totally disregard bulk email sent like this, and I do not blame them one bit. If they allowed it, their email boxes would be filled with hundreds of thousands of emails daily, as lists and email addresses would be passed on from person to person. For this reason, politicians do not share the email addresses they really use. Sure, you might find one posted online somewhere and it might be accurate, but you will not get through to them. This is why most of them have individual online forms on their websites. Fill out the form, check off the reCaptcha box and answer a question like 5+12= and then you'll get through to them. Using a paid service like Reagan.com - or the other paid services mentioned - will not help you. Part of their terms of service reads...
They will and have shut people down for using their service to email bomb. The "480 email addresses in the to field" is pretty much the definition of an "email bomb." So what do you do? Build a relationship with your elected officials the normal way instead of email-bombing everyone. Again, the email bombs will be blocked and you're waisting time. When businesses send emails like this, we have bulk email providers like Mailchimp, Constant Contact or Mailgun to get the emails out and ensure they are delivered. This will not work for you either, as you need specific permission to email customers through these services. Break the rules and they will simply shut you down. Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Just so you know I'm not talking out my backside, my bona fides: I am a retired systems, network and telcom admin with over 25 years in those fields. I not only managed email servers, but also developed corporate email policy, participated in email client and server software development, and was once heavily involved in the email abuse field. So, question: When you write "similar problem like [yours]," just how "similar" do you mean? Because emailing dozens, not-to-mention hundreds, of people repeatedly, for anything other than opt-in mailing lists, is email abuse. Pure and simple. I don't care who they are or who you are. Secondly: Putting lots of email addresses in "To:" fields is bad form, because you're sharing every recipient's email address with every other recipient. Never mind what happens if somebody should do a "reply to all," which people tend to do by default when they reply. Putting reams of addresses in the "Bcc:" field to get around that will almost certainly lead to your email getting ignored, and quite likely your email address being added to recipients' "send it to the spam folder" rules. (I send all email that isn't addressed explicitly to me and isn't from a mailing list to which I subscribed straight to the bit bucket w/o reading it.) There are proper ways to bulk email. What you've been doing, if it's even remotely similar to what you suggested, is not one of them. Personally, had I been an email admin at whatever domain(s) it was to which you were sending that stuff, around the second or third complaint I'd received about you, you'd have been added to the mail server's "block and forget" reject list. Gmail has implemented a reputation system because gmail doesn't want to end-up on block lists the world over. Gmail is big, but nobody is too big to end up on such lists. Gmail, for all Google/Alphabet's faults, has been pretty good about running a clean shop. Surprisingly good, in fact. I'm sure they want to keep it that way. It hasn't always been that way, either. Gmail, in the early days, was widely blacklisted at times. I once had them blacklisted on every server I admin'd. I doubt any reputable ESP (Email Service Provider) is going to let you do what you've been doing if what you've been doing is remotely similar to the example response you posted. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Better Than I Deserve! |
Keith isn't a gmail account rep, he says so in his email. He says..."Neither I nor any of the helpers here are Google employees. Googlers do not hang out here." Sounds like a volunteer moderator/helper in a forum to me. I don't see anything in his response or the rules of gmail that he explains as a problem. I'm glad they have some filtering mechanism to attempt to weed out spammers. Are you a paid user of gmail or a free user that is unhappy with the free service? I also use Protonmail which is very good. ____________________________ NRA Benefactor Life Member GOA Life Member Arizona Citizens Defense League Life Member | |||
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Also if you are using outlook and OWA there is a sliding scale of emails recipients you can send to, this is based in some part by historical usage, so if you normally send to no more than 5 people and do that for months then try to send to 400 people outlook may block this out and may also block it inbound to the recipient. Found this out when a company I am VERY close with was hacked. __________________________ The entire reason for the Second Amendment is not for hunting, it’s not for target shooting … it’s there so that you and I can protect our homes and our children and and our families and our lives. And it’s also there as fundamental check on government tyranny. Sen Ted Cruz | |||
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^^^ this ^^^ If you are doing mass emails and want to avoid the issues then it is not as simple as finding another guy (email). You need to lookup a service for this and follow their procedure. | |||
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Or I guess you could always back a dump truck up to the state legislature's doorstep and dump out a load of papers all printed with "To Whom It May Concern - Please vote against it. Sincerely, DSGrouse" That would likely be just about as effective as sending daily mass emails that also get ignored, and then you wouldn't have to worry about reputation systems or email blocking. (Although you might then have some littering issues to contend with, plus printing costs and equipment rental.)  | |||
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While I like your idea I think renting a full manure spreader and dumping a whole load of political promises on the steps would send a more clear message. __________________________ More blessed than I deserve. http://davesphotography7055.zenfolio.com/f238091154 | |||
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You're using the wrong tool(s) for the job and blaming the wrong people. That's not what regular email, Gmail or otherwise, is for. Get a specialized tool. @ensigmatic knows. Others, too, I'm sure but I didn't read every response.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 46and2, | |||
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Truth Wins |
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