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another crazy shooting on the front porch... Lubbock TX

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November 25, 2021, 06:12 PM
Sig209
another crazy shooting on the front porch... Lubbock TX
in the same vein as the pregnant lady getting shot this one is kinda crazy also (not similar circumstances -- just a crazy scenario)

starts off as a custody dispute on private property and goes downhill from there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzv4JzsoU9k

https://www.everythinglubbock....PpO-K2ixoE4Qzj0yaMFM


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November 25, 2021, 06:32 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Idiots. Neither parent should have custody of the children.
November 25, 2021, 06:50 PM
ChicagoSigMan
The shooter doesn't seem phased at all by the fact that he just shot someone and that he is standing next to a guy that's dying or dead.
November 25, 2021, 07:03 PM
K0ZZZ
The way the father is talking, you can tell the mother has been pulling crap with his visitation on a pretty constant basis. She thinks it perfectly reasonable to just keep the kids whenever she pleases.


... Chad



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November 25, 2021, 07:04 PM
pbramlett
What kind of rifle? Sounded quiet.




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P.
November 25, 2021, 07:21 PM
thumperfbc
quote:
Originally posted by pbramlett:
What kind of rifle? Sounded quiet.


Pistol caliber I think.

Sad situation where people feel the need to resort to this. I feel for the kids involved.
November 25, 2021, 07:21 PM
sasquatch28
quote:
Originally posted by pbramlett:
What kind of rifle? Sounded quiet.


Looked like a Ruger PCC.
November 25, 2021, 07:29 PM
fwbulldog
There is a 2nd video from inside the house with a much better view of dead guy trying to take the rifle away from the shooter.






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November 25, 2021, 07:35 PM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
The way the father is talking, you can tell the mother has been pulling crap with his visitation on a pretty constant basis. She thinks it perfectly reasonable to just keep the kids whenever she pleases.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Perhaps. I would think the Dad has done plenty of stuff as well. In these situations BOTH parties are at fault.
Yelling and sreaming in front of the kids is beyond stupid.
November 25, 2021, 07:56 PM
MikeinNC
Chad shoulda left when new husband said he was trespassing.

(Not agreeing with the shoot or arguing castle doctrine or whatever)



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November 25, 2021, 08:19 PM
Lefty Sig
WTH? The wife of the guy that got shot keeps arguing with the shooter for damn near a minute before calling police and ambulance? No one cares he's laying there motionless, and she doesn't freak out "OMG! OMG! my husband is shot and dying, OMG!"?

Pretty sure the shooter is going to get charged for this. I don't see any evidence that the father could reasonably be construed as a deadly threat to justify confronting him with a firearm. But the father was pretty damn stupid to escalate with a guy pointing a gun at him.
November 25, 2021, 08:41 PM
sigmonkey
Ron White was wrong.




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November 25, 2021, 08:48 PM
drill sgt
Am sorry that a adult died but what do you expect by the way they were behaving....... It is the kids that am sorry for because of the loss of their parent(s)....................... drill sgt.
November 25, 2021, 08:58 PM
83v45magna
Wow, stupid games and all that.

Wonder what's on the next episode of Rat Bastard Theater?
November 25, 2021, 09:42 PM
bubbatime
Shooting happened 20 days ago and he still hasn’t been arrested. Apparently the cops might think it is justified or they are waiting to see if a grand jury will bring charges.

Just having a gun, on your own property, is not justification for the dead guy to get offended and attack. This is exactly a Kyle Rittenhouse scenario. Probably shouldn’t have come out of the house with the gun, but it was legal for him to do so. It was not legal for dead man to assault the homeowner.

It may go to trial, but I think the homeowner will not face prison time. Certainly not 1st or 2nd degree murder. Maybe a lesser charge.


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November 25, 2021, 09:52 PM
K0ZZZ
quote:
Originally posted by bubbatime:
Shooting happened 20 days ago and he still hasn’t been arrested. Apparently the cops might think it is justified or they are waiting to see if a grand jury will bring charges.


Part of it is that the shooter is actually the husband of a local judge, though they're getting divorced. So the local cops are apparently referring everything to a different jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute due to conflict of interest issues.


... Chad



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November 25, 2021, 09:56 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by bubbatime:
This is exactly a Kyle Rittenhouse scenario.

Baloney. He wasn't attacked. He got his feelings hurt.

The shooter fired a shot at his feet (with his wife in the line of fire) and the dead guy threw him off. That's it. No justification and no self defense IMO.

And don't get me started on the utter disregard for human life by all parties there. Sickening.


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November 25, 2021, 10:36 PM
sigmonkey
quote:
Originally posted by pbramlett:
What kind of rifle? Sounded quiet.


Property of some camera/smart phones "clipping" the sound when it is very loud.




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November 25, 2021, 10:45 PM
slosig
Seems like both parties could have made better choices. I guess the point of having a legal system is to resolve disputes without having to resort to violence too bad both didn’t make use of the legal system instead of getting in a pissing contest.
November 25, 2021, 10:52 PM
darthfuster
Well now visitation will be impossible. Better to have the fight in court. That gun looked like a Hipoint.



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