https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...ilitary-ban-n1255522

Without getting into the whole transgender serving issue again, at least a couple things struck me
From the article:

“While the Trump administration maintained its policy was not a “ban,” it did prevent transgender people who plan to pursue gender-affirming hormones or surgery from enlisting”

So those just wanting the taxpayer to fund them once again get a free ride?

“ Thousands of transgender people already serve in the military. A 2016 Department of Defense survey estimated that 1 percent, or 8,980, active duty troops were transgender. Using the same data, the Palm Center, which studies LGBTQ people in the military, estimated that an additional 5,727 transgender people were in the Selected Reserve, bringing the total estimated number of transgender troops serving in 2016 to 14,707.

Seriously? Given the minuscule percentage of them in the general population, these numbers are just not believable to me.

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200+ page thread on biden* here: https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...5/m/8930089854/p/213 Since it was expected, it's hardly news.

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Originally posted by egregore:
200+ page thread on biden* here: https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...5/m/8930089854/p/213 Since it was expected, it's hardly news.

Not news? No kidding. Ergo “as expected”

This isn’t about Biden per se. it’s about the two specific items from the article.

"As expected, Biden reverses ban on transgender in the military"

This isn't about 'Biden' per se...

I wouldn't trust half the people I work with in a real situation, what their title is makes no difference to me.

Long as they are decent I'm not gonna assume they are any better or worse than the others I work with.

I'll make that determination when I meet them personally and see their character.

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"As expected, Biden reverses ban on transgender in the military"

This isn't about 'Biden' per se...

Perhaps not, but it IS about who is telling him what to do and say.

flashguy

In an effort to soothe the shattered nerves, the title is changed.

No. Not just no, but “fuck no, hella bbq sauce, fuck that fag Lizzie shit, no, with a double dose of fuck no with a sharp stick, fuck no.

You can’t figure out your gender, or identity. We need people who are warriors. Not fucking social justice warriors. Warriors like the goddamned definition. Vikings, Dae Joyeong, Julius Caesar, Frederick the Great, Napoleon Bonaparte. Not some mincy faggot balls shrinking.

Movie clip to explain the mincy faggot balls.

I’m not a doctor but I do know if you can’t figure out if you are a boy (outie) or a girl (innie) you probably shouldn’t be handling weapons....

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I’m not a doctor but I do know if you can’t figure out if you are a boy (outie) or a girl (innie) you probably shouldn’t be handling weapons....

No shit. I wouldn't want to bet on an "it" having my back in a stressful situation.

The left wants our military to be a social experiment. They eschew the notion that it really serves to break and kill things in defense of our liberty. Pajama boys and "its" need not apply.

As long as we are letting women who are masculine and think they should be men dress as men and use the men's facilities, I don't think it will be a huge problem. Unless they decide they want to be women again, and nature takes it's course...

I really don't think men dressing as women and using the women's facilities is going to fly. Dudes will probably get the shit kicked out of them by the women.

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
I’m not a doctor but I do know if you can’t figure out if you are a boy (outie) or a girl (innie) you probably shouldn’t be handling weapons....

Beck didn't have a lot left to prove.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristin_Beck

This is my rifle
This is my gun,
This is for shooting
This is for fun

I believe Beck didn't start transitioning until after the military.

So, I have to fight tooth and nail to finish out my time because of hearing loss along with being limited on what MOS I can choose but a recruit who doesn't know if he is Timmy or Tammy, he/she/they or it is fine to serve.

They wonder when my team SGT asked if I was re-enlisting and if not why... Hmmm. You tell me.

These various administrations have turned the US Military into a PC organization who only worries about special little groups.

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
I’m not a doctor but I do know if you can’t figure out if you are a boy (outie) or a girl (innie) you probably shouldn’t be handling weapons....

Beck didn't have a lot left to prove.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristin_Beck

Based on a diagnosis from the DSM IV sexual identity.( Wether he served honorable or not is irrelevant.) Something is wrong with people who believe they are a different sex.

And in my opinion they shouldn’t serve because it is a real medically diagnosed disease.

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So, I have to fight tooth and nail to finish out my time because of hearing loss along with being limited on what MOS I can choose but a recruit who doesn't know if he is Timmy or Tammy, he/she/they or it is fine to serve.

They wonder when my team SGT asked if I was re-enlisting and if not why... Hmmm. You tell me.

Exactly this!

Our SIL has been in the Army for about 13 years or so. He was originally going to stay for the whole 20. He was recently having some problems during PT so they did an EKG on him and suspected that he may have an enlarged chamber in his heart. He's now waiting on the results of an Echo test to know for sure. They have already suggested that if that's what the problem is, they will probably just medically discharge him regardless of what he wants to do. Now that the Biden administration has taken over he is actually kind of hoping things will turn out that way. Even if he is fine physically, he has decided he wants out. He has a year left on his current contract or whatever they call it but he will try to get out of it if he can.

If you’re born with a twig and berries, you’re male. If not, you’re female. Simple really.

This is just another thing Democrats are using to divide and conquer. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Allowing it is contrary to good order and discipline. The living quarters on USN vessels are no place for "I think I have female parts".

Mental illness. Plain and simple. During my time in Army aviation as a Medivac crew chief, I never wanted anyone near my helicopter that wasn't 100% there. Had a good friend who did the avionics for our choppers. Walked out on the flight line to mine one day and he was smoking pot in it. Although we were really tight, that was the end of his military career. I could not let someone put us in mortal danger with a "F" up when we needed it the most. No way should anyone who isn't crystal clear on who they are be allowed anywhere near those who must trust their team with their lives. Absolutely not. It is insane to think that someone who can't decide who they are be anywhere near the danger zone.

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Originally posted by mrapteam666:
I believe Beck didn't start transitioning until after the military.

My understanding Beck also didn't advocate for chemical therapy while in but, was more of an issue when in civilian clothes.

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...estimated that 1 percent, or 8,980, active duty troops were transgender

I find that very hard to believe, a very, very generous estimation IMO.