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Originally posted by sdy:
https://www.breitbart.com/midd...p-eliminating-hamas/

Newly-confirmed Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr. is pressuring Israel to give up on the idea of eliminating the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, claiming a prolonged war risks turning more of the Palestinian population into terrorists.

Gen. Brown, whose nomination stalled amid concerns about his “woke” record — including support for Black Lives Matter radicals and racial promotions in the military — expressed skepticism despite rapid Israeli gains on the ground against Hamas.

A senior Israeli official retorted to The Times of Israel that if the Israel Defense Forces is forced to work faster, it has less time to carry out operations surgically and in a manner that limits civilian casualties.

Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr. - when you pick a "leader" because of the color of his skin

Here in UK, and indeed in the rest of NATO, serving military officers are required to keep their political views to themselves until they are no longer in the military. In all my 33 years of service, nobody ever asked or cared what my political views were. My private thoughts were my own, and I went to the polls using the polling card with my name on it - Mr T A etc.......NOT my rank.

^^^ Used to be that way here too.

quote:

Originally posted by sdy:
https://www.breitbart.com/midd...p-eliminating-hamas/

Newly-confirmed Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr. is pressuring Israel to give up on the idea of eliminating the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, claiming a prolonged war risks turning more of the Palestinian population into terrorists...

Could it be that Gen Brown's personal feelings are irrelevant and he is simply "following orders" from the White House?

Maybe there are no orders, but he KNOWS what they want him to say.

This makes me feel good.

https://www.breitbart.com/midd...hostage-at-hospital/

Based on precise IDF and ISA intelligence, and with the direction of IDF ground troops, IDF aircraft struck Ahmed Siam, a company commander of the Naser Radwan Company of the Hamas terrorist organization. Two days ago, the IDF spokesperson exposed that Siam held hostage approximately 1000 Gazan residents at the Rantisi Hospital and prevented them from evacuating southwards for their safety.

Ahmed Siam was killed while hiding in the “al Buraq” school, where additional terrorists under this command were also hiding and were killed. Ahmed Siam demonstrates once again that Hamas uses the civilians of the Gaza Strip as human shields for terror purposes.

https://hotair.com/ed-morrisse...arts-blinkin-n591696

Fierce fighting continued in and around Gaza City between Israel Defense Forces troops and armed gunmen on Saturday, as the military closed in on Shifa Hospital, where Israel believes Hamas’s main headquarters to be located.

Live footage of the area appeared to show heavy fighting in the vicinity of the hospital, with the constant sounds of gunfire and explosions and heavy smoke rising from the area.

Israel has presented evidence in recent weeks that Hamas’s main command center is located underneath Shifa and accused the terror group of using the hospital and its occupants — with 1,500 beds and some 4,000 staff — as human shields for the elaborate bunkers and tunnels beneath it.

Thousands of civilians had been sheltering in the Shifa compound in recent weeks, but many fled Friday as Israeli troops closed in and the IDF expanded access to safe evacuation routes to the south, where there are fewer airstrikes.

Israel has HAMAS by the throat with one hand, and the world by the balls with the other.


We are 1:500 of the world population, and when we say, "Never Again!" And "Let my people go."

You either listen or deal with the fallout.


Your, fucking move...


You may beat us, but you will never win

It's beginning to look a lot like Dresden, not quite there yet. The tunnels are the real target.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/...ood-battle-diseases/

Across Gaza, rare scenes of dissent are playing out. Some Palestinians are openly challenging the authority of Hamas, which long has ruled the enclave with an iron fist, in scenes unimaginable just a month ago. Four Palestinians across Gaza spoke to AP on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals about what they’ve seen.

A man who was told off by a Hamas officer for cutting the bread line took a chair and smashed it over his head, according to an aid worker in line. In another area, angry crowds hurled stones at Hamas police who cut in front of a water line and beat them with their fists until they scattered, according to a journalist there.

Over the past few nights in Gaza City, Hamas rockets streaming overhead toward Israel have prompted outbursts of rage from a UN shelter. In the middle of the night, hundreds of people shouted insults against Hamas and cried out that they wanted the war to end, according to a 28-year-old sleeping in a tent there with his family.

And during a televised press conference Tuesday, a young man with a dazed expression and bandaged wrist pushed his way through the crowd, disrupting a speech by Iyad Bozum, spokesman for the Hamas-run Interior Ministry.

“May God hold you to account, Hamas!” the man yelled, shaking his wounded hand.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/...le_end&utm_content=1

The IDF has indicated it does not have plans to engage in tunnel warfare , as the passages are likely to be booby-trapped. Instead, it is demolishing the tunnels as they are being found.

The Combat Engineering Corps has been tasked with clearing routes — using armored D9 bulldozers — for ground forces to maneuver in the Gaza Strip, as well as locating and destroying Hamas infrastructure, including tunnels, rocket launchers, and other sites not struck by the Air Force.

The officer said the combat engineering forces have been double-checking each building for tunnels and weaponry, as the military progresses into Gaza City at a slow, methodical pace.

“We know that first search, sometimes it’s a very quick search, and the second one is like surgery. We are going corner to corner until we find everything,” the reservist engineering officer said.

Twenty-eight rocket launch sites — including dozens of launchers and rockets — and 91 tunnels had been found in the northern Gaza area alone within the first 10 days of the ground offensive. Another 40 tunnels and dozens more rocket launchers were located south of Gaza City.

Lt. Col. Adoniram (his surname was withheld by the IDF for security concerns), the commander of the 614th Combat Engineering Battalion, told The Times of Israel that most of the tunnels and rockets they had found were deep within civilian sites.

“We encounter a lot of weapons, a lot of tunnels. Here you saw one under a children’s room. We found them in playgrounds, we found them in kindergartens, and in mosques. Tomorrow morning someone will say ‘Why did they attack a mosque?’ This is why,” Adoniram said.

Like the tunnels, the rocket launch sites could also be hard to find; they are often hidden underground, deep inside residential areas.

“From our point of view, every square meter can hold a tunnel,” Adoniram said.

“We scan thoroughly, and there is intelligence, and the intelligence is very good. And there are means by which we both locate and destroy [the tunnels],” Adoniram said.

“There is a lot more to do, there is the entire Gaza City,” he added.

Just then, he was cut off by a large blast. About 100 meters away, his soldiers had detonated a Hamas rocket.

It had been found while the troops were excavating between buildings in the upscale neighborhood.

The neighborhoods along the northern coast of Gaza are ghost towns. There were no civilians, and not a car in sight.

Adoniram said that his unit had not encountered civilians at all in its area of operations. Many had fled south or were sheltering at schools or hospitals. By the UN’s estimate, some 1.5 million of Gaza’s population of over 2 million was internally displaced.

There had been some engagement with Hamas operatives in the area, but much fewer than they had anticipated, Adoniram said. Most fighters were believed to have fled underground when ground troops entered.

Weeks of airstrikes and artillery had left their mark. Not a single building in the area remained intact, and many were just concrete skeletons.

The home where the tunnel had been found was still relatively upright but soon would be just rubble.

While combat engineers rigged up the tunnel to be destroyed, The Times of Israel and other troops moved to a safe distance — about 200 meters away.

As the soldiers chatted about what was happening back home, a massive blast sounded, with a cloud of dust, smoke, and debris filling the air. Soldiers ducked for cover from falling shrapnel.

With the tunnel destroyed, the combat engineering troops began to search for additional hidden entrances that may have been forced open by the blast.

that is one way to find the entrances

Adoniram said that there would be a lot more tunnel-clearing work once the military pushes further into Gaza City.

“The goal is that when we leave here, there won’t be a single tunnel” left in Gaza, he said.


“It is also a matter of pace. As long as the pace of progress is orderly and on our timeline, then it will be thorough,” he said. “Right now, we are working thoroughly.”

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Originally posted by sdy:

“It is also a matter of pace. As long as the pace of progress is orderly and on our timeline, then it will be thorough,” he said. “Right now, we are working thoroughly.”

Anything worth doing, is worth taking the time to do it right. Glad Israel is not letting "outside" pressure de-rail their methodical approach to problem solving.

That was the Rachael Corrie school of bulldozer blocking graduate right there.

IF the "outrage" against HAMAS by the Palestinian people is true, I can only imagine all the intell the Israelis are getting about weapons locations and tunnels.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
That was the Rachael Corrie school of bulldozer blocking graduate right there.

When I popped the TV on this morning it was on a major network (from football the night before) and one of those national talking heads shows was on. The moderator made a statement to the effect of.... "with the growing public outcry over the civilian deaths in Gaza, as we've seen from the protests around the world, when will Israel stop this...." And that is when I turned it off.

This 'public outcry' is being, nurtured, fed, and spread by the major media. Most of the protestors are Palestinians who want a Jewish genocide and are playing perpetual victim until they get it, or college students duped by a variety of sources and have no clue what they are supporting.

I would ask how innocent is a population that has been forcibly, or through education, indoctrinated to hate and want the destruction of a group of people? The same innocent people in Gaza celebrating the brutal murder of children and infants in Israel right?

https://www.memri.org/tv/pales...out-sweets-fire-guns

A clear example of the complicity of the Gaza people after the attack. YET a quick defense because apparently if ALL 2 million aren't there, you can't make that assertion.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ma5...?si=qy52edZ2rJ9WUXlE

Palestinian gets taken to school by an Arab Muslim for claiming Israel was only a state since 1947
https://youtube.com/shorts/2jc...?si=QAXPDR4lPC1fQ6yh

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Keep going and finish Hamas!