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Some Statistics and the implicitly Lying NYT

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November 05, 2017, 01:14 PM
tleddy
Some Statistics and the implicitly Lying NYT
https://everytownresearch.org/...ence-by-the-numbers/

and this

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/1...gun-death-rates.html

And a most telling statistic from everytown research:
Black men are 14 times more likely than non-hispanic white men to be shot and killed with guns.
Black Americans make up 14 percent of the U.S. population8 but are victims of more than half of all gun homicides.

Sounds like we have a specific sub-culture issue to me... anyone else?


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November 05, 2017, 01:38 PM
CPD SIG
Coming from someone that's at ground zero of a lot of the shootings & homicides, the article is pretty much spot on.

However, everyone else is going to cry that it's racist, the people that compiled the data are racist, the author is racist, and we're racists for reading it. Wink


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November 05, 2017, 01:56 PM
SIGSense
quote:
Originally posted by CPD SIG:
.....going to cry that it's racist, the people that compiled the data are racist, the author is racist, and we're racists for reading it.


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November 05, 2017, 01:57 PM
bigdeal
The overwhelming majority of this 'gun violence' can be isolated to one particular race in several urban locations around the country. But as noted above it would be completely racist to recognize the 'real' problem, so liberals seek to continue to try and force people's heads into the sand by demonizing anyone who won't go along with their insanity.


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November 05, 2017, 01:59 PM
radioman
maybe we can go back exactly one year ago, and they can again try to predict the winner of the 2016 POTUS election. Smile


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November 05, 2017, 08:03 PM
Storm
The variable that has greatest correlation to the murder rate on a state by state basis (that I've found), is the percentage of the population that's black.

Correlations:
Murder Rate v. % Black: 0.84

Murder Rate v. % Hispanic: 0.06

Murder Rate v. % White: -0.48

Note: Correlations range in absolute values between zero and one. Zero means there’s no correlation between the variables (in this case, percent of racial population and the murder rate in each state), and one means there’s a perfect correlation between the variables. A positive correlation means that the dependent variable (Murder Rate) increases with the independent variable (percent of racial population). A negative correlation means the dependent variable decreases with the independent variable. A correlation above 0.50 is considered significant. The correlation between blacks and the murder rate is surprisingly high for a sociological phenomenon.

An Interesting Fact: If the murder rate for blacks was equal to the murder rate for whites (in the U.S.), then the country as a whole would have a murder rate close to or equal to the rate for most European countries, which is around 1.1 murders/100K population.

Single Victim/Single Offender Murders (& Rates) for 2014:


2014 Murder Rate v. Percent of Black Population, by State (including D.C.):


2014 Murder Rate v. Percent of Hispanic Population, by State (including D.C.):


2014 Murder Rate v. Percent of White Population, by State (including D.C.):



Sources:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.or...nationally-and-state

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/

http://kff.org/other/state-ind...on-by-raceethnicity/



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November 05, 2017, 10:09 PM
ChuckWall
We don’t really have a single America with a moderately high rate of gun deaths. Instead, we have two Americas, one of which has very high rates of gun ownership but very low murder rates, very comparable to the rest of the First World democracies such as those in western & northern Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Japan, South Korea.

The other America has much lower rates of gun ownership but much, much higher murder rates, akin to violent third world countries.


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November 06, 2017, 06:55 AM
Sig209
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
The overwhelming majority of this 'gun violence' can be isolated to one particular race in several urban locations around the country. But as noted above it would be completely racist to recognize the 'real' problem, so liberals seek to continue to try and force people's heads into the sand by demonizing anyone who won't go along with their insanity.


No doubt.

I bet if you removed the 'most violent' 15 zip codes from the equation (any guesses as to where they might be??) gun crime in the US would be a very small number.

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