Originally posted by PASig: The actual French pronounciation is “Me-Shel-Lan”
Just like the word for wine; Vin is pronounced “Van”
Précisement. Mais sans le 'n'...............
September 12, 2024, 08:22 AM
Johnny 3eagles
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September 12, 2024, 08:38 AM
a1abdj
I'm going to shoot the French theory down.
Here's a French Michelin commercial from 1958. They don't say "shay" when pronouncing it.
Originally posted by Black92LX: I heard a little tidbit about Michelin the other day. However I have no clue if true or not.
But supposedly the reason Michelin started reviewing restaurants was they wanted people to drive more (to sell more tires) so they started reviewing places to eat way out in the country side so the rich folks would drive their cars further and more often to these places that were getting great reviews but were not near the main town.
That's correct. The car was a luxury when they debuted and Michelin, a tire manufacturer thought it'd be novel to produce a guidebook of roadside eateries around the country while also promoting its tires. At the time road maps, guide books and travel information was focused around train travel, this free booklet could be picked-up at a service station while you gassed-up or, had your car worked on and help you on the roadways instead. The booklet was a near instant hit as weekend drives became a thing, various locations outside of the cities became destinations, with hotel & inn reviews coming soon after. The reviews introduced ratings later on, as the publishers encouraged restaurant owners to basically 'step-up their game' with this emerging market and the rest is history. Personally, while dining at restaurants that have been awarded stars is a treat, I like to seek out the locations that have been awarded the Bib Gourmand = best value for money restaurants – offering a three course meal at a reasonable price.
There once was a time when people had to be convinced that a car was useful. That was the situation in 1895, when brothers Edouard and Andre Michelin developed a new design for a car tire at their rubber company in Clermont-Ferrand, France.
The brothers had a superior product: one of the first air-filled tires, which could be quickly replaced since it was not glued to the wheel. To prove its value, the brothers sponsored car races, which drivers with Michelin tires often won handedly.
But France had only around 350 cars in 1895. Automobiles “remained rich men’s toys… unable to stray very far from the vicinity of a reliable repair show,” Herbert Lottman writes in The Michelin Men. “The nascent motorcar could easily be dismissed by seasoned entrepreneurs on the lookout for realistic investments.”
In this environment, increasing the number of drivers—the motivation for the Michelin Guide—was more important than gaining an advantage over other tire manufacturers.
First published in 1900, the guide’s 399 pages contained all the information drivers needed to “go touring” through French towns and cities. Only restaurants attached to hotels were included, and they were listed rather than carefully rated. Information about installing and caring for Michelin tires occupied the first 33 pages, and ads for car part manufacturers occupied another 50 pages. Maps and basic information about dozens of towns made up the bulk of the guide.
For drivers, that information was essential. Gas stations did not yet exist, so drivers needed to know which pharmacies sold gasoline in several-liter containers. Motorists needed the timetables that listed when the sun set during the year, because highways did not yet have lights. Only a fraction of auto repair shops stayed open all year, which made it crucial to know which closed at the end of summer. Details like this distinguished the Michelin Guide from the tour books of the time, which assumed that people traveled by rail.
The Michelin brothers’ efforts to make driving easier extended beyond the guide. Once company employees began rating hotels, they made clear to hoteliers that they should offer free parking. They also lobbied the government to put up road signs for motorists—Edouard Michelin is sometimes credited with inventing road numbers, because he convinced the government to enlarge the numbers it painted on highway posts. At times, company men put up road signs themselves.
Similarly, a major aim of Michelin marketing was to promote the car as a way of life. “With a car, no more 5 a.m trains,” a Michelin ad in 1924 declared. “With a car, there is more opportunity for the pleasant things in family life.”
“Our industry is directly interested in the continual progress of automobiles, on which it depends,” Michelin once wrote in an article. In creating the guide, the brothers hoped to provide the information and infrastructure that would convince rich people to buy cars, drive throughout France, and buy Michelin tires.
Even if that meant creating an entire guidebook side-business to do it.
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September 12, 2024, 10:45 AM
jhe888
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Originally posted by PASig: The actual French pronounciation is “Me-Shel-Lan”
Just like the word for wine; Vin is pronounced “Van”
Correct, and the French would barely hint at the existence of the final N sound.
mish-eh-la(n)
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September 12, 2024, 10:52 AM
trapper189
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Originally posted by a1abdj: I'm going to shoot the French theory down.
Here's a French Michelin commercial from 1958. They don't say "shay" when pronouncing it.
I only heard two syllables: mish lon.
September 12, 2024, 10:56 AM
TigerDore
I pronounce it “Hi-dro-plane”.
Due to an unfortunate mishap about 35 years ago, and the understanding that Michelin was having more than the average number of hydroplane incidents, I haven’t bought their product since.
September 12, 2024, 11:49 AM
egregore
The Michelin Man has a name: Bibendum.
(from c. 1898)
He is white because rubber fresh out of the tree is white, and early car tires were also white. Carbon black was added later.
If you pronounced it like it's *supposed* to be in faux French, nobody would know what you're talking about.
September 12, 2024, 02:01 PM
Sig2340
It's pronounced Sum-i-to-no.
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September 12, 2024, 02:07 PM
HRK
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Originally posted by Fla. Jim: Kissimmee, Around my area since before I moved here in 57 has always been pronounced Ka-sem-me . Likewise Michelin we changed the e to an and the c to a s , and it’s pronounced Mi-sha-Lin .
Yep Ka-sem-mee, you can tell who the transplants or Disney tourists are, they talk about going to or staying in Kiss-a-mee...
September 12, 2024, 02:11 PM
egregore
Now say Mannlicher.
September 12, 2024, 03:32 PM
CoolRich59
Yeah, the French say everything different.
Last year, I was camping in Wisc up in the Nicolet National Forest.
I was talking with a ranger and pronounced it Nico-let. The ranger politely told me the correct pronunciation is Nico-lay.
ETA: One thing I learned years ago is that Texans use similar tricks to spot Yankees. If you go to Bexar County and say "Bex-ar" everyone will know you're not a local.
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September 12, 2024, 04:12 PM
sjtill
I speak French. I’ve been told my accent is excellent. When I buy tires, I order Mish-uh-luns. I don’t want to get a funny look from the overworked guy behind the counter at Costco.
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September 12, 2024, 04:14 PM
parabellum
Yes, your entire life has been a lie.
Actually, it's pronounced "MEESH-uh-loo"
September 12, 2024, 04:20 PM
sigmonkey
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב!
One thing I learned years ago is that Texans use similar tricks to spot Yankees. If you go to Bexar County and say "Bex-ar" everyone will know you're not a local.
I'll wager the residents of New Bern, NC do the same. (It's pronounced as one word.)
September 12, 2024, 07:12 PM
sigmonkey
Svea and Arab Alabama.
Them locals know if'n you ain't from 'round here...
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב!
September 12, 2024, 09:40 PM
KMitch200
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Originally posted by Johnny 3eagles: Ain't nothing but a thing. Just buy Goodyear tires
That’s how I’ve been pronouncing it.
- - Being from the Mid-West, I can pronounce Oconomowoc correctly as well. - -
That one I better be able to get right. If I can’t, I’m having a stroke!
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September 12, 2024, 09:49 PM
hberttmank
I live in Indian country so it's funny to hear the city pronunciations from people that aren't from around here. But how would they know from just looking at a word?
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