Joe Biden on the campaign trail: "If you like your health care plan, ..." // biden is out !
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Originally posted by Timdogg6:
Any thoughts??
What's concerning is everyone, particularly Republicans, setting expectations for Joe so low that if he does somehow survive a debate without slapping Trump across the face like Moe and calling him daddy, he'll come across as actually viable.
Having said that, i don't think Biden not having a "moment" during a legitimate Q&A session or debate is very likely.
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August 14, 2020, 12:17 PM
Il Cattivo
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This does not bode well for the dems, since we all know that the msm is the propaganda arm of the dnc. It doesn't seem likely that the biden ticket will be able to hold off questions for too much longer.
I'm sure they're absolutely stunned that Biden and Harris weren't downright eager to make a party out of an opportunity for the candidates and the press to make a series of attempts to slap at Trump. From the perspective of media activists, this is utterly irrational behavior since it "should" produce votes for the politicians and paychecks for the media while both engage in downright frenetic virtue signaling.
August 14, 2020, 12:51 PM
46and2
I don't like her, at all, but wonder what she's thinking...
I have a difficult time believing she actually believes she/they have a real shot.
Like she's wasting her chance, if there ever was one. Jumping the gun, etc.
He's so... lackluster... at the very least. Hitching her wagon to that old geezer seems odd.
Like her or not (I don't), she's a serious player on the left, and has been angling for this sort of thing since before Obama took office. Heretofore she's been pretty patient. This seems more Hail Mary than calculated.
August 14, 2020, 01:12 PM
chellim1
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Like she's wasting her chance...
Not at all. This is as close to a "can't lose" scenario [for her] that you can imagine. If they lose, she won't be blamed. If they win [God forbid] she will be President herself in short order.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
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August 14, 2020, 01:34 PM
P220 Smudge
Yep. Basically, she’s got nothing to lose by running for VP.
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August 14, 2020, 01:38 PM
jsbcody
Ahh, the always enjoyable Rageaholic take on Harris pick:
Couple of the best comments on the youtube page:
"I can't even imagine what the Democrats' internal polling is looking like. Wonder if we're going to see them start hurling themselves off of tall buildings like 1920s stockbrokers."
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
August 14, 2020, 02:13 PM
parabellum
OK, very good. We're back on track here. Makes for a more interesting thread, wouldn't you say?
August 14, 2020, 02:29 PM
BamaJeepster
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Originally posted by 46and2: I don't like her, at all, but wonder what she's thinking...
I have a difficult time believing she actually believes she/they have a real shot.
Her numbers tanked as the dem debates went on. She didn't even win her home state and had almost zero support in the dem primaries when she folded. She has nothing at all to lose and if she believes the media polls and pundits who are saying Biden has a huge, double digit, almost insurmountable lead, why not continue to garner name recognition even if she knows deep in her heart that those polls are rigged. Look at all the absolute fawning media attention she has already received. Every national publication and news outlet has posted glowing stories building her up to be the greatest politician and leader the country has ever produced.
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams
August 14, 2020, 03:06 PM
LS1 GTO
My opinion, once someone lifts the rug and exposes all the hidden dirt, she's toast.
As a CA residence, I really think the DNC picked her to ensure she'll be a non-player in 2024.
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
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August 14, 2020, 07:20 PM
Sportshooter
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Originally posted by LS1 GTO: My opinion, once someone lifts the rug and exposes all the hidden dirt, she's toast.
As a CA residence, I really think the DNC picked her to ensure she'll be a non-player in 2024.
Do you really think the Dems are capable of playing such a long game? If Joe and and his VP pick lose, they might rethink the run a radical gambit.
August 14, 2020, 07:23 PM
parabellum
Yeah, these assholes ain't the deep thinkers some take them for.
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August 14, 2020, 07:50 PM
nhtagmember
They had to pick someone so it was either her or Warren. The lesser of the evils I think.
But they have to know they don’t have a snowballs chance in hell of winning.
August 14, 2020, 08:20 PM
Flashlightboy
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Originally posted by nhtagmember: They had to pick someone so it was either her or Warren. The lesser of the evils I think.
But they have to know they don’t have a snowballs chance in hell of winning.
As soon as Biden announced that his VP would be a black women, the talent pool was awfully shallow.
He couldn't pick Rice, he couldn't pick Bass and he wasn't going to select Abrams. It's almost like Harris was the last one standing.
August 14, 2020, 10:05 PM
erj_pilot
I honestly don't know any "true" blue-dog, old-fashioned Liberal Democrats, like those from the 70's. For those that do, what are they saying about this year's picks for P/VP now that the ticket has been completed and are they in agreement with their party taking such a hard, radical turn to port? Will they cast their vote for President Trump or just abstain from voting for President altogether?
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August 14, 2020, 10:40 PM
Skins2881
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL: The ONLY way that cognitive deficits are clinically diagnosed is through extensive neuropsychological testing .... the rest is conjecture.
For anyone who had a parent or grandparent go through it, you can spot it. I may not be able to give a clinical diagnosis, but it's clear as day. Just the same as you may not be a mechanic, but if your car starts burning oil; running through coolant; misfiring; smoking; sounding rough; etc. You can tell you have a problem. You may not know the exact diagnosis, but you've had cars in the past and you know what happened right before they shit the bed.
It's kind of like that, he's not right, it's clear as day. Just because I don't know the medical lingo or degree, I can understand something is not right.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis
August 14, 2020, 10:50 PM
Il Cattivo
If he has a hard time making speeches or holding up his end of debates, then that may well be enough. I don't mean to be dismissive, but I want Trump to win regardless of what state Biden is in.
August 14, 2020, 11:14 PM
craglawnmanor
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Originally posted by Il Cattivo: I don't mean to be dismissive, but I want Trump to win regardless of what state Biden is in.
Yeah, well, I don't think Biden knows what state he's in. Could be Delaware, could be Arizona, could be Kentucky,... and I could continue for 47 more states...
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