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Joe Biden on the campaign trail: "If you like your health care plan, ..." // biden is out !

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August 28, 2019, 06:20 PM
erj_pilot
Joe Biden on the campaign trail: "If you like your health care plan, ..." // biden is out !
From Fox news...

Purge begins in 2020 Democratic race as cash dries up and debate rules tighten

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Ten candidates have already qualified to make the stage for the third and fourth debates. They are:


https://www.foxnews.com/politi...debate-rules-tighten



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August 28, 2019, 07:03 PM
parabellum
I think this guy has it right.


August 31, 2019, 11:01 PM
sdy
Joe Biden on illegal aliens:

“And these kids who come, and they end up doing well, they become Americans before a lot of Americans become Americans ... I’m serious”

https://hotair.com/archives/ed...ster-americans-know/
September 02, 2019, 04:42 PM
BamaJeepster
Either it's yet another gaffe or Biden is calling for banning all guns that use magazines.

https://www.washingtontimes.co...an-hold-multiple-bu/

Joe Biden makes extreme gun-control push -- or another gaffe

Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden either called for the banning of most handguns or displayed basic misunderstanding of the simplest of firearms terminology.

Campaigning Monday in Iowa, Mr. Biden demanded the elimination of “magazines that can hold multiple bullets in them,” calling such a ban so obvious that only ill motive could explain it.



“The idea that we don’t have elimination of assault-type weapons magazines that can hold multiple bullets in them is absolutely mindless. It is no violation of the 2nd Amendment. It’s just a bow to the special interests of the gun manufacturers and the NRA,” he said at a Labor Day picnic in Cedar Rapids.

The phrase “magazines that can hold multiple bullets” raised eyebrows, though. Ryan Saavedra of the Daily Wire explained why, while posted the clip.

“Joe Biden makes the most extreme gun-control push of all the 2020 Democrat presidential candidates: Biden calls for banning ‘magazines that can hold multiple bullets in them.’ All magazines hold ‘multiple bullets,’ that’s the point. This call from Biden would ban most handguns,” Mr. Saavedra wrote.

With the exception of old-fashioned revolvers, whose basic design concept has remained unchanged since the six-shooters of the Old West, modern-design handguns store multiple bullets in magazines.



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September 02, 2019, 04:46 PM
kramden
Time to call it a day (career) Joe. You're losing it.
September 02, 2019, 04:51 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by kramden:
Time to call it a day (career) Joe. You're losing it.

He lost it 7-8 years ago, at least.
September 02, 2019, 04:58 PM
parabellum
This was all decided in D.C. vs. Heller and US vs. Miller.

Furthermore, the Second Amendment does not grant citizens the right to keep and bear arms. The Second Amendment acknowledges and affirms a right which exists exclusive of the Constitution and says that this right shall not be infringed.

The wording of the amendment reveals this quite clearly.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

It does not say "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the people shall be granted the right to keep and bear arms."

It says that this right, which already exists, shall not be infinged upon.

I'm sick of this stinking horse shit. If you do not accept the Constitution of the United states in its entirety and without fallacious interpretation, then you are not an American, no matter where you were born. You may be a citizen of this great nation, but unless you accept the Constitution, you are simply not an American. You cannot be.
September 02, 2019, 05:04 PM
RHINOWSO
Suck it Joe, you senile old coot.
September 02, 2019, 05:08 PM
jljones
You know the other idiots will now have to step up their gun control claims to keep up with creepy Uncle Joe.

You know they are all in competition to out-commie one another.


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September 02, 2019, 05:34 PM
Sig2340
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
You know the other idiots will now have to step up their gun control claims to keep up with creepy Uncle Joe.

You know they are all in competition to out-commie one another.


O'Dork already has, with a proposal for the mandatory sale of all semi-automatic firearms to the federal government.

quote:
https://www.dailywire.com:

< snip >

Robert Francis O’Rourke announces that if he's elected he is going to confiscate your guns:

Reporter: How do you address fears that the government is going to confiscate people's semi-auto firearms?

O’Rourke: “I want to be really clear, that’s exactly what we are going to do”

< snip >

ROSAL


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I think there is another fundamental error in how people read the Second Amendment.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

The words "of a free state" are most often thought to be describing a geopolitical entity such as the Commonwealth of Virginia.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free geopolitical entity, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

I have been pondering whether it means a state of being free, i.e., freedom.

If you replace the words it would read:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of freedom, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

It makes sense, the idea that "a free State," attaches to a "the people," when the whole document is about ensuring individual freedom.

I'll need to reread Heller to see of Justice Scalia had anything to say about this.





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September 02, 2019, 05:41 PM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
You know the other idiots will now have to step up their gun control claims to keep up with creepy Uncle Joe.

You know they are all in competition to out-commie one another.


O'Dork already has, with a proposal for the mandatory sale of all semi-automatic firearms to the federal government.


To buy and to sell are free market concepts with free will among participants. O'Roarke's little commie plan is confiscation. It's not even a gun buyback, which involves free will. He's a little punk, a lily white Obama



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September 02, 2019, 06:09 PM
smschulz
The more they say they will confiscate the better it is for us.
They will only strengthen our resolve.
So go ahead dems - go for it!
September 02, 2019, 06:15 PM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
The more they say they will confiscate the better it is for us.
They will only strengthen our resolve.
So go ahead dems - go for it!

Yup - bring that shit, bitches.


September 02, 2019, 06:17 PM
Strambo
Even bolt-action rifles have magazines that hold multiple cartridges in them, some "blind," some bottom hinged, some even....detachable!! Eek




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September 02, 2019, 06:20 PM
RHINOWSO
All Senile Joe wants us to have is double barrel shotguns. Until someone commits a crime with one, then they'd be gone too.
September 02, 2019, 06:54 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
The more they say they will confiscate the better it is for us.
They will only strengthen our resolve.
So go ahead dems - go for it!


I mean, yeah, seriously. Is anyone really scared of these clowns? Just listen to these idiots. When that retard rourke says stuff like that, it doesn't scare me; it actually makes me laugh. Dork indeed.

quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
All Senile Joe wants us to have is double barrel shotguns. Until someone commits a crime with one, then they'd be gone too.


Yeah, where's that gif of ol' Joe blasting away with both barrels?


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September 02, 2019, 08:47 PM
Oat_Action_Man
LOL, cool story Joe.


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September 02, 2019, 09:03 PM
gearhounds
O’Dorke... there’s a reason he’s polling around 2.4. What a loser.




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September 02, 2019, 09:12 PM
mbinky
Correct me if I am wrong, but Francis does not currently hold any elected position correct?

And as for 'Ol Joe, I do not now nor will I ever have anything for sale during his "buyback". I'll keep everything just the same, thanks for asking.
September 03, 2019, 12:41 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by gearhounds:
O’Dorke... there’s a reason he’s polling around 2.4. What a loser.
I read Beeto's comments and my take away is as follows....

1 - Beeto isn't going to be president of anything. He's utterly delusional to think otherwise.
2 - When Beeto made his confiscation comments, where was the followup questions by the media inquiring how he plans to take those weapons away from people, and how people who refuse to comply would be handled.

Would love to see Beeto pushed to explain on that second question.


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