Joe Biden on the campaign trail: "If you like your health care plan, ..." // biden is out !
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Originally posted by oddball:
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Originally posted by chellim1: 1. Michelle Obama. I think she's the wild card. She has said she doesn't want it
She doesn't want it. Never did, never will.
To add to Para's post, she loathed the political life, loathed life in the WH. Reportedly she was ecstatic when Obama's 2nd term ended, out and away from the public microscope, while past First Ladies had sadness at the end.
And now she and Kaptain Kenya have a production deal in Hollywood; now they're a bigger deal than their model couple, Jay-Z and Bouncy Girl. They have a million mansions. They have a gazillion dollars, they are loved by the sheep and the media.
And to give all of this up to play Ed McMahon to Shotgun Joe?
[bolding mine]. I understand the Obama net worth has gone up 50 fold since entering the White House. I wonder how much of that was gained honorably??
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August 01, 2020, 03:45 PM
az4783054
The power that comes from a high level political position is worth more than money. The money comes from their contacts and influence they wielded while in office.
The clintons, obamas and bidens are the perfect example.
August 01, 2020, 04:46 PM
Sigolicious
"I heard he is so close to picking a VP he can smell her!"
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August 01, 2020, 04:57 PM
chellim1
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Originally posted by parabellum:
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Originally posted by chellim1: Michelle Obama. I think she's the wild card. She has said she doesn't want it... but she's been awfully quiet lately. She's Biden's best chance at winning.
You need to think about it a bit more...
Para, you give many reasons why Michelle Obama would not do it. And I agree with you that she has many reasons NOT to do it. I'm not saying she will do it. If you re-read my post, all I'm saying is that it's likely part of the reason Biden hasn't yet announced a VP pick. I think the Biden people really want her and are pulling out all the stops to try to convince her. They know that having Michelle Obama on the ticket is Biden's best and perhaps only chance at winning.
If I were placing a bet, today, on who Biden's VP pick will be... my money would be on Susan Rice.
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August 01, 2020, 05:20 PM
mbinky
I firmly believe there won't be a VP announcement until mid to late September at the earliest. In order to appease the Bernie faction they are going to pick an outright communist and they want to keep that person away from RNC attacks as long as possible. The probably figure keeping Joe in the basement isn't hurting so why not wait until the last minute to announce the VP?
August 01, 2020, 05:23 PM
tleo205
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I understand the Obama net worth has gone up 50 fold since entering the White House. I wonder how much of that was gained honorably??
zip...zilch...nada
August 01, 2020, 05:46 PM
darthfuster
If Michele O were willing, they would already have announced. Biden needs someone with her following desperately. She won't do it especially with Biden.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
August 01, 2020, 05:50 PM
ersatzknarf
Wait, wait, wait...
Really confused here.
If creepy joe is gonna pick a woman, why are y'all talking about Big Mike???
August 01, 2020, 05:53 PM
darthfuster
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^oh no you dint!
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
August 01, 2020, 06:14 PM
Boss1
Just got done doing the weekly 'burn a couple hundo' trip to the grocery store.
As per usual, took a spin past the book/magazine rack.
There was actually a fairly thick (maybe 80 pg) 'commemorative-like' magazine on shelf about his campaign that towards the end was writing as if he had already won the presidency.
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August 01, 2020, 06:57 PM
Hobbs
Well, no matter who Biden picks as VP running mate, don't let Trump cheat !!! DEMAND voter ID, voting in person, no mail-ins NOW !!!
August 01, 2020, 07:11 PM
Il Cattivo
^^ Now that is social justice right there, and I don't care who you are.
August 01, 2020, 08:21 PM
bigdeal
Personally, I think Uncle Joe selecting Kamala is great news for us and the Trump campaign and we should all stay away from the eligibility issue (which is a loser). Harris isn't even liked by black voters, and has a laundry list of failings the Trump campaign can savage her with. None of Uncle Joe's options seem especially impressive or helpful for his campaign, but I think Harris is especially fail worthy.
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August 01, 2020, 08:45 PM
Il Cattivo
^^^ You know what the best part of that would be? Harris would be vilified as 'Skank In Chief' or something, and the feminists would feel compelled to defend her. Once they started defending her they'd have to treat her as a rallying point so often that they'd eventually raise her to the status of some kind of feminist icon. At that point the Dems would be stuck her and her BS forever.
August 01, 2020, 08:58 PM
Oat_Action_Man
I'm pretty sure it'll be Harris. Every Dem voter knows that Biden is a scam to get his veep choice as the first woman president. The other black women on his list are unknowns and not remotely polished and ready for national press. Furthermore, none of them were even on the national primary ballot. That's too jaded a stretch for even the most jaded. Harris it is. Warren at the outside, but Biden pretty much fucked himself into a corner by saying "my choice will be an XYZ".
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August 01, 2020, 09:03 PM
Il Cattivo
I don't know about that. Susan Rice is at least as viable as Harris is, and has a reasonably impressive resume. Plus, Biden's crossed his fingers and said that while he was considering four black women, there were other women on his list of candidates as well. That means someone like Tammy Duckworth or Gretchen Whitmer could still be in play.
August 01, 2020, 09:15 PM
braillediver
Like in sports- Instant Replay= Times have changed dramatically and for the worse since this article. This aspect of her would negate her appeal as VP.
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KAMALA HARRIS’S CRIMINAL JUSTICE RECORD KILLED HER PRESIDENTIAL RUN
The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart.
August 01, 2020, 10:02 PM
Boss1
KH is the personification of condescension...its like a rake down a chalkboard listening to her talk...
Picking her would likely be good for us...
You can bet all the high $$ consultants are listening to the chatter and having focus groups to see how she plays as a choice...
$.02 worth.
Boss
A real life Sisyphus... "It's not the critic who counts..." TR Exodus 23.2: Do not follow the crowd in doing wrong... Despite some people's claims to the contrary, 5 lbs. is actually different than 12 lbs. It's never simple/easy.
August 02, 2020, 02:51 PM
chellim1
Joe Biden still can't get his act together on who to pick for VP
August 1, the day for Joe Biden to announce his running mate for the presidential election came and went, and instead of a rollout, Joe Biden pushed his vice presidential choice back another ten days.
According to the New York Post:
Joe Biden is not expected to pick a running mate until at least Aug. 10. The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee had previously said he expected to name someone to the job by the first of the month.
The late in the game decision will put the announcement just one week before the Democratic convention that will officially designate the pair as the party’s presidential and vice presidential nominees.
Sure, it's possible the whole story is a story of Biden being disorganized and addled, unable to make up his mind, given that he's 77 and as Peggy Noonan put it, an "old" 77. Just his inability to know what day it is and where he is supports that argument.
But it's just as likely that Democrats are in some fierce backfighting. After all, nobody thinks Joe Biden's really going to be president, the closest thing to president should Biden be elected would be the vice president. Democrats know about power for the taking when they see it.
Up until recent days, California's Sen. Kamala Harris been seen as having it in the bag.
Based on Biden's earlier notes, she was. And she wants that job badly, campaigning ferociously behind the scenes, to the point of planting negative articles in the press about her potential rivals.
But this ten-day delay says she's not a lock. Something about her signals Joe isn't good with her. And now she has to wait, undoubtedly ... climbing the wall.
Yet her potential rivals are no prizes, either. Besides Harris, who got her political start as Willie Brown's mistress and slept her way to the top, her rivals include Rep. Karen Bass of California, basically a Cuban operative, according to this impeccably researched Breitbart report, and Susan Rice, President Obama's mouthpiece of lies, and keeper of the Obama administration's plotting secrets.
Different rival factions of the Democrats are battling it out and Harris is the loser.
No wonder Harris is going all in for getting word out about her many endorsements - such as this one:
Ben Crump, a civil rights lawyer who represents the family of George Floyd and other high-profile victims of police brutality, endorsed Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) to be former Vice President Joe Biden’s (D) running mate.
“This is a time for steely-eyed public servants who play no games and demand results,” Crump wrote in a CNN op-ed. “It's time for Sen. Kamala Harris to join Joe Biden's ticket and, God willing, help him actualize the next phase of this movement from the White House.”
Or even more seriously, this group, California's power elite:
Prominent supporters of the California senator asked for the virtual sit-down on the heels of a POLITICO report Monday that Harris is not a lock for VP. It quoted former Sen. Chris Dodd, one of four members of the vetting unit, remarking to a prominent Democratic donor that Harris had “no remorse” for attacking Biden during a debate last year. Biden’s campaign at the time viewed the attack — Harris went after Biden for opposing a school busing program — as a cheap shot contrived to make him look racially insensitive.
That story and another recent POLITICO report detailed that a contingent of Democrats is lobbying against Harris to be chosen as Biden’s running mate.
The conference call included several of the state’s highest-ranking elected officials and labor and business leaders, including Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis, Secretary of State Alex Padilla, San Francisco Mayor London Breed, state schools chief Tony Thurmond, state Treasurer Fiona Ma and Chad Griffin, a Democratic consultant and former head of Human Rights campaign, according to organizers.
Representing the Biden campaign were the four main members of his vetting team: Dodd, Rep. Lisa Blunt Rochester of Delaware, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti; and Biden's former White House and Senate counsel, Cynthia Hogan.
What we have here are the Obamatons advocating for Susan Rice, the Bernie-ites advocating for Karen Bass, and Kamala herself, who seems close to the Hillary Clinton machine, being the third faction. The Obama people want to prevent prosecutions of Obama officials now that prosecutors are bearing down on them - they'd also like the Obama legacy restored and institutionalized. The Bernie-ites hate Harris, whom they accurately view as a former corrupt prosecutor or "a cop" as they put it. The Hillary-ites just want payback for the 2016 loss and lots of pork and parties for the elites, going back to the good old days. Pay to play and Clinton Foundation donations rolling in. Harris also comes attached with the smug California elites, wanting to export their blue-state permanent party model to the rest of the country.
Whoever Biden picks is going to represent the triumph of the represented faction over the other rivals. If Biden goes for Bass, he wants the win the Bernie-ites. If Biden goes for Rice, it's back to Obamadom and being Obama's shadow. If Biden goes for Harris, it's the Hillaryworld hog wallow, which should provide for young Hunter Biden and the rest of the family, as well as bring in the California elites.
My money's on his picking Harris in this situation based on who he is, but it's obvious he doesn't trust Harris, who has that lean and hungry look. No wonder nobody, including Joe Biden himself, knows who Joe Biden is going to pick.
No wonder nobody, including Joe Biden himself, knows who Joe Biden is going to pick.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
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August 02, 2020, 03:13 PM
az4783054
Maybe he's rethinking warren because she's part Native American. It wasn't that long ago that many here thought warren had the vp spot in the bag.
Creepy joe will announce his vp when soros and the dnc make their choice.