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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
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If that scenario occurs, the Dem convention will be a three-ring circus.

It is going to be 3-ring circus regardless. Chicago. No clear candidate. Infighting. Guaranteed protests, crime outside. No clear platform, just the same shit everyone hates now. Etc. Etc. The Dems are on such a self-destructive path, I don't see one single positive thing happening to them in the coming months.

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Originally posted by 229DAK:

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If they wanted to really get the Dem base going, invoking the 25th would get Kamala in as Prez

That would be a disaster for the country.

It would be horrible but she polls the best between herself, Gretchen and Gavin.

Even with a floor fight convention, the Dems don't have any appealing balance to their ticket, regardless of who they pick as the nominee and vice president. They have nothing to draw on.

Doug Schoen, an old school Democrat, had an excellent article about the RNC and DJT today:

“Donald Trump may well have sealed the outcome of the 2024 election with a performance on Thursday night in Milwaukee that has largely been unmatched in recent American political history.

The former president eschewed the polarization and division that has marked much of his rhetoric in the past. In his speech officially accepting the Republican Party's nomination there were only a couple of references to the 2020 election. Trump was able to hit on key messages when speaking about topics like inflation, and especially immigration, in ways that were compelling and arguably responsive to the fundamental concerns of Americans…”


https://www.foxnews.com/opinio...ion-may-already-over

So much for all the hopeful, blind-ass predictions from the talking heads.

Biden says he will 'back on campaign trail next week'

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Originally posted by parabellum:
So much for all the hopeful, blind-ass predictions from the talking heads.

Biden says he will 'back on campaign trail next week'

I Sure hope so! I don't want the entertainment portion of the presidential race to end.

Oh so Biden got over his “Cold” and your putting him back out there for another run at it. Good stay in there and don't pull out. That really is the best thing for you to do now. Go get 'em tigger.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
So much for all the hopeful, blind-ass predictions from the talking heads.

Biden says he will 'back on campaign trail next week'

That's because Team Biden tried something new with Ol' Joe...

NSFW!
https://x.com/MostlyPeacefull/...w2gLTSbZHvB9Ssg&s=19

Mayhem, havoc, disarray, what have ya:

https://x.com/RealPatrickWebb/.../1814388179262489032



Lock that sucker in, boys!! Git 'er done!!


Ignoring controversy, Democrats move forward with nominating Biden via virtual roll call

Democrats are in an unprecedented crisis over who should be their presidential candidate.

But the party committee that governs the nominating process met Friday and proceeded as if everything was normal and its entire plan was not at risk of being upended at any minute.

As calls mount for President Joe Biden to step aside and let another Democrat lead the party into the November election against former President Donald Trump, the Democratic National Convention’s Rules Committee held a virtual meeting where the message to delegates was, essentially: Everything is proceeding as planned.

The meeting was convened to discuss plans for a virtual roll call vote to formally nominate Biden weeks before the convention, but no votes were taken or decisions made. Instead, party leaders used the meeting to inform the nearly 200 members of the committee about the process that is currently planned, which they had already laid out in a letter earlier this week.

The committee will meet again no later than Friday, July 26, to consider adopting the virtual roll call process, which would not be held until the first week of August.

The virtual roll call idea has plenty of detractors inside the party, but the only hint of dissent in the meeting came in questions about whether other candidates could be nominated for the virtual roll call (answer: technically yes, but actually, probably not). Otherwise, the virtual meeting was uneventful — despite starting moments after four more Democratic members of Congress called on Biden to step aside.

Party leaders like Democratic National Committee Chair Jaime Harrison spoke repeatedly about his excitement to “renominate President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris” and to promote the “Biden-Harris ticket.”

Leah Daughtry, a longtime Democratic rules expert and the co-chair of the Rules Committee, joked about trying to turn the committee members into “rules geeks” by the end of the process.

And convention Executive Director Alex Hornbrook, appearing from his office in Chicago with a large, red “Biden” banner over his left shoulder, gushed about the exciting events planned for next month’s convention and touted that the convention is credentialing social media influencers just like traditional reporters to help “tell the story of the Biden-Harris accomplishments” to young people.

The purpose of the meeting was to lay out the party’s proposed fix to a paperwork problem that has been causing some outsize heartburn for Democrats as they debate whether Biden should remain their nominee.

Parties typically formally nominate their candidates at their national conventions, during live roll call votes where each state weighs in (Trump was nominated on Monday in this fashion). But since May, Democrats have been discussing plans to nominate Biden weeks before the convention via a virtual vote, in order to avoid a potential legal issue in Ohio.

Joe’s a fighter!

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Joe’s a fighter!

Which would explain his brain damage....

Elder abuse.

Democrat godfathers make Biden offer they hope he can't refuse

https://www.foxnews.com/opinio...-hope-he-cant-refuse

Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democratic Party commission seem prepared to make Joe Biden an offer he can’t refuse: One way or another, he’s dropping out of this race, they say, either with his consent or with his legacy destroyed.

Just when Biden thought his candidacy was safe, after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump quieted talk of a swap at the top of the ticket, they pulled him back in, and now the pundits tell us that his campaign won’t survive the weekend. We’ll see.

For the bosses of the Democrat family, ending Biden’s political career is a three-step process. First they ask him to leave, then they tell him to leave, and finally they threaten to destroy him if he won't wise up. We are almost at step three

The advantages of step one are very clear. Had Biden selflessly and magnanimously put his own interests aside for the betterment of the party, if not the country, by dropping out, he might have seen the kind of double-digit approval bounce Lyndon Baines Johnson got in 1968. That boost would accrue to the benefit of the new candidate, likely Kamala Harris.

Likewise, he would secure his legacy as the caretaker president who saved the nation from the evils of the Trump Family and bestowed power upon the new, young generation.

That ship has sailed now, and we are squarely on step two. But Biden has already rejected team Obama when they told him, "that’s a nice legacy you got there. It'd be a shame if something happened to it."

The threats from the editorial boards of The New York Times and Chicago Tribune, the consiglieres of the Democratic Party, have been ignored by an obstinate sitting president who for some reason, thinks he's in charge.

Now Biden seems poised to wake up with a bloody equine head in his bed, and the Democrats have no shortage of horses to choose from.

Perhaps the tape of his interview with special counsel Robert Hur will be released. If the audio wasn’t humiliating to Biden, we would have it already, so not for nothing, it can’t be good. Attorney General Merrick Garland could have a sudden change of heart. These things happen.

Then there is his prodigal son, Hunter, who hopes to beat the rap and go legit with his art career. If Joe declines to run, there is no reason he can’t pardon the family Fredo, especially after the election, win or lose.

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Originally posted by Mustang-PaPa:
"Good stay in there and don't pull out. That really is the best thing for you to do now. Go get 'em tigger".

That is exactly the thought process that Hunter used to give Old Joe his unwanted granddaughter. Just saying.....

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For the bosses of the Democrat family, ending Biden’s political career is a three-step process. First they ask him to leave, then they tell him to leave, and finally they threaten to destroy him if he won't wise up. We are almost at step three

In a way I hope this happens. It will prove to America that you either do what Obama, Clinton, Soros and the Democratic elite tell you to do, or they will destroy you. You can't ask for a better example of tyranny when they show they are willing eat their own to win and hold power.

Looking at Biden climbing the stairs to Air Force 1, then trying to get into the limo, I’m thinking that Jimmy Carter, who has been in hospice all year, will outlive him.

in out in out in out in out in out in out...emotional rollercoaster

Man, this could get stickier than the aftermath of the 2020 election. Considering it sounds like there’s a faction of democrat elites willing to compel Biden to withdraw and the clock is ticking, who has the stronger will and power? There are the paths listed in the above opinion with a threat to legacy as the final solution.

Or is it the final solution? There is section 4 of the 25th amendment. To execute that would be messier than clearing a septic line and would potentially ignite an intra-party civil war for all to see. Not to mention if it goes to compulsory removal, it takes time to follow the process and to herd the cats of congress.

Biden has enough good cards in his hand that he could weather a coup, though it would damage his party and frankly, bloody his own nose. It’s a zugzwang for the dems, but one of their own myopic making and one that as a spectator, is entertaining in a shaudenfreudian way.

I wonder, if they 25th’d Joe, would Kamala pardon Hunter? Will Sally sleep with leonard? Who shot JR?Tune in to tomorrow’s As the Turd Whirls to find out. Brought to you by Downy fabric softener….

They figured it's a toss-up. Heads, Trump wins, Tails, Biden loses.

If they run Joe Biden, they lose. If they run Kamala Harris, they lose. If they run someone else instead of Kamala, not only do the democrat ticket lose, they'll have a bloody civil war within the Democratic Party.