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Joe Biden on the campaign trail: "If you like your health care plan, ..." // biden is out !

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October 23, 2021, 01:13 PM
Ripley
Joe Biden on the campaign trail: "If you like your health care plan, ..." // biden is out !





Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.
October 23, 2021, 04:53 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Some encouraging news. The Dems are fighting over tax legislation. A proposal has been floated to heavily tax the 700 or so billionaires in this country. Since that definitely does not include me I can live with that. Musk and Zuckerberg can pay. It seems like sleepy and his cronies have been in charge forever.
October 23, 2021, 05:09 PM
Il Cattivo
^^^ Again, the devil will be in the details of the mechanism they choose if they actually turn that into legislation. The Dems seem to think an amazing number or people are rich if they inherit anything, cash in a retirement plan or sell a home.
October 23, 2021, 05:15 PM
ZSMICHAEL
^^^^^^^^^^
You are correct. Sinema seems to be holding out. At least I have some hope.
October 23, 2021, 05:16 PM
nshumway
I think the answer is obvious…


October 24, 2021, 06:29 AM
Keystoner
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
A proposal has been floated to heavily tax the 700 or so billionaires in this country. Since that definitely does not include me I can live with that.

You're ok with it because it doesn't affect you or because you agree with the proposal?



Year V
October 24, 2021, 07:30 AM
Jimbo Jones
Slippery slope / bad precendent.

Next theyll start taxing people's 401k or retirement plans, taxing ALL home sales, etc.

Plus its destined to fail...those 700 people, if faced with taxation, will just expatriate their holdings to some tax-friendly haven. Like Eduardo Saverin, when faced with paying $700 MM in taxes in the US upon Facebook IPO, he renounced US citizenship and moved to Singapore.

quote:
Originally posted by Keystoner:
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
A proposal has been floated to heavily tax the 700 or so billionaires in this country. Since that definitely does not include me I can live with that.

You're ok with it because it doesn't affect you or because you agree with the proposal?



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October 24, 2021, 07:50 AM
Graniteguy
The only tax I will ever be OK with is a flat-one. No deductions, exemptions, write-offs, etc.
October 24, 2021, 08:33 AM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
You're ok with it because it doesn't affect you or because you agree with the proposal?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Because it does not affect me. I think the entire tax proposal is more socialism.
October 24, 2021, 08:45 AM
Fire Away
quote:
Originally posted by Graniteguy:
The only tax I will ever be OK with is a flat-one. No deductions, exemptions, write-offs, etc.


A big +1 for this.
October 24, 2021, 03:12 PM
ZSMICHAEL
I was wondering who dresses Joe. He always looks impeccable and what seems to be tailored clothing. Wonder if he has a personal valet. I was thinking if he dressed himself he would be wearing a muscle shirt with a sport coat and his hair would be askew.
October 24, 2021, 04:23 PM
sigalert
Sinema seems to be enjoying the attention. But she clearly knows which side her bread is buttered on. She’s acting in accordance to her constituent’s wishes, which I can respect. Same for Manchin.

The upcoming Arizona Senate race will be interesting.





“Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison

"Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson
October 25, 2021, 10:45 AM
TMats
Victor Davis Hanson on the first 9 months.

quote:
Sheer chaos and anarchy on the border? Afghanistan—the most humiliating defeat in recent U.S. military history? A labor-starved supply chain in shambles and holiday shelves emptying out? The worst inflation in 30 years that seems soon ready to match Carter-era levels? Gas hitting $5 a gallon with winter heating fuels soaring? Free-for-all looting in the major cities without consequences? President Joe Biden’s policies and Biden himself diving in the polls?

Never in recent American history has any administration birthed such disasters in its first nine months.

Yet most Americans are arguing not over the sheer chaos and disasters of the Biden administration, but rather how could such sheer pre-civilizational calamity occur in modern America? Were these disasters a result of historic incompetency? Or mean-spirited nihilism? Or a deliberate effort to create the necessary turbulence to birth a new American revolution? Or a bit of all three?

Start instead with the idea that what most Americans see as sheer ruin is not what the left-wing puppeteers (who are pulling the strings of the Biden marionette) see. Our catastrophes are their minor glitches. For them, bad polling is mostly a public relations problem of an occasional uncooperative media. Otherwise, a few broken eggs are always necessary to create the perfect socialist omelet.

The left now controlling Washington believes that the U.S. border is a mere construct. Every impoverished person has a birthright to cross into America illegally. The 2 million who are scheduled to enter this fiscal year alone is a wonderful, if occasionally sloppy, event.

Our border calamity is their celebration of humanity and a long-overdue recalibration of ossified American demography, one that will properly warp the Electoral College to provide the necessary election result. If you believe that a culturally imperialistic America needs to be taken down a notch overseas, then the flight from Afghanistan is “impressive” and a “success”— by how quickly and efficiently we skedaddled.

Why worry about a lost $1 billion embassy, a $300 million refit of the Bagram airbase, or $80 billion lost in military hardware and training? Empty shelves? Boohoo.

Grasping, upper-middle-class consumers are angry that the working classes are not willing to risk COVID-19 infection to supply them with their accustomed holiday trinkets.

So, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg intoned that the shortages mean only that the consumer class has to wait a wee bit—until Christmas Eve—to splurge on gifts.

Who worries about a little inflation? Under new monetary theory, printing dollars brings prosperity. Or as White House chief of staff Ron Klain put it in a retweet, inflation is a mere “high-class problem” of the Peloton elite.

Only those with money worry their ill-begotten pile shrinks. But the majority without money will eventually rejoice that it is everywhere now—finally and properly “spread,” as former President and now multimillionaire Barack Obama once promised.

As Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., swore, gas and oil are going to be gone anyway in 10 years. So, if Biden slashes over 2 million barrels a day in U.S. oil production, what’s wrong with that?

Didn’t Steven Chu, Obama’s energy secretary, long ago brag that when we hit $8 to $10 a gallon, we’d approach European levels of proper fuel usage? Why whine about paying over $100 to fill up when the planet more quickly cools?

Did not Americans learn “critical legal theory” and “critical race theory”? Or as the architect of the 1619 Project reminded us, destroying or taking someone’s property is no big deal. Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey shrugged off torched downtown buildings; such torched stuff, he said, is mere “bricks and mortar.”

It is only a crime to “steal” over $500 of needed merchandise from a Walgreens in San Francisco, because the rich who make such absurd laws never have to steal goods from a pharmacy shelf.

If racists wish to point out that African American male youths are disproportionately represented in the latest crime wave, then maybe America should be learning not to create the conditions that force them to break the law.

In sum, we are on a left-wing roller coaster headed to a socialist nirvana.

Most Americans believe it is instead an out-of-control “Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride” nightmare with incompetents at the wheel. But the architects of such “hope and change” shrug that the occasional disturbing news that the media sometimes accidentally leaks out is merely the cost of an equitable America. One man’s anarchy is another’s road to justice.

Keep that mentality in mind and the absurdities that are mouthed by Biden, Klain, press secretary Jen Psaki, Homeland “Security” Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, Buttigieg, or the ravings of “the squad” make perfect sense.

They are merely trying to explain to us dummies that what we think is purgatory is actually the new paradise—a promised land that, once we are properly programmed and educated, we too will welcome and thank them for our deliverance.



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despite them
October 25, 2021, 11:30 AM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by TMats:
Victor Davis Hanson on the first 9 months.


Link?




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October 25, 2021, 11:42 AM
TMats
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
quote:
Originally posted by TMats:
Victor Davis Hanson on the first 9 months.


Link?

https://www.dailysignal.com/20...RYG4p4JiMTX2JdJMd8A8


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despite them
October 25, 2021, 01:48 PM
Cookster
quote:
”Or a deliberate effort to create the necessary turbulence to birth a new American revolution?”


Well, that’s VDH for you. Always dancing around the truth of what is really going on.

Always take the God Damned Commies for their word.

Turbulence, civil unrest, the break-down of a functioning society / societal norms, and the mockery of rule law are some of precursor’s necessary to clear the way for Progressive concepts such as ‘Fundamental Transformation’ and ‘Build Back Better’.

FJB!!


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October 25, 2021, 01:50 PM
Balzé Halzé
I despise, with the utmost burning passion, every single person associated with this White House.

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Unvaccinated Americans to face tighter COVID testing requirements in new US travel system

Eve Chen and Bailey Schulz, USA TODAY

Mon, October 25, 2021, 2:38 PM

The U.S. will roll out a new travel system in two weeks that will open borders up for millions of vaccinated international visitors.

The system launching Nov. 8 will end the U.S. travel ban that has been in place for dozens of countries since the start of the pandemic.It will also make reentry more challenging for unvaccinated U.S. citizens and permanent residents and establish stringent testing requirements for the rare unvaccinated foreign nationals allowed entry.

"For anyone traveling to the United States who cannot demonstrate proof of full vaccination, they will have to produce documentation of a negative test within one day of departure," instead of the current three days, according to the White House.

Fully vaccinated Americans will still have a three-day window for COVID-19 testing with negative results, but if they are not able to show proof of vaccination, they too will be subject to the one-day testing requirement.

"These are strict safety protocols that follow the science of public health to enhance the safety of Americans here at home and the safety of international air travel," senior administration officials said in a Monday briefing.

https://news.yahoo.com/unvacci...covid-180015856.html

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So even vaccinated people have to test. Utterly ridiculous and nonsensical all this stuff.


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October 25, 2021, 03:42 PM
kimber1911
Playtime at Elementary School today for Joe.



Good teacher though.
She casually moved in to distract Joe’s attention away from the kid.
The teacher seemed to recognize the action of the pedophile and chief.

Biden, touching children again.



Biden gets touchy with Pre-Schoolers







“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
October 25, 2021, 03:43 PM
sdy
can anyone interpret ?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1452702864057507854

biden video at link

"As one computer said, if you're on the train, and they say Portal Bridge, you know you better make other plans"

computer = commuter ?
October 25, 2021, 04:23 PM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I despise, with the utmost burning passion, every single person associated with this White House.

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Unvaccinated Americans to face tighter COVID testing requirements in new US travel system

Eve Chen and Bailey Schulz, USA TODAY

Mon, October 25, 2021, 2:38 PM

The U.S. will roll out a new travel system in two weeks that will open borders up for millions of vaccinated international visitors.

The system launching Nov. 8 will end the U.S. travel ban that has been in place for dozens of countries since the start of the pandemic.It will also make reentry more challenging for unvaccinated U.S. citizens and permanent residents and establish stringent testing requirements for the rare unvaccinated foreign nationals allowed entry.

"For anyone traveling to the United States who cannot demonstrate proof of full vaccination, they will have to produce documentation of a negative test within one day of departure," instead of the current three days, according to the White House.

Fully vaccinated Americans will still have a three-day window for COVID-19 testing with negative results, but if they are not able to show proof of vaccination, they too will be subject to the one-day testing requirement.

"These are strict safety protocols that follow the science of public health to enhance the safety of Americans here at home and the safety of international air travel," senior administration officials said in a Monday briefing.

https://news.yahoo.com/unvacci...covid-180015856.html

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So even vaccinated people have to test. Utterly ridiculous and nonsensical all this stuff.


There's got to be a civil rights case in there somewhere



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier