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Originally posted by stoic-one:
That whispering is F'n surreal.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
I do wonder about this issue: If you call for police officers to give up their careers and everything that that involves over something like enforcing a law they don’t like, do you truly believe that any significant number will think and act as you believe they should?

If you think about this question, please note that it’s about what will happen, not what should happen.

* And if you do think atrocities throughout history were limited to those committed by Nazis, I recommend you expand your knowledge. The subject is depressing, but although it’s a fantasy wish on my part, it’s nevertheless something everyone should know and understand.

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Originally posted by sdy:
"Wait, Kamala Harris Hardly Left the Airport for Her 'Border' Trip?"

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by sdy:
"Wait, Kamala Harris Hardly Left the Airport for Her 'Border' Trip?"

In the fifty plus years I've been around there has never been a more empty suited VP. This moron would have to walk a thousand miles to even begin to see a glimmer at the end of the tunnel.

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Originally posted by sdy:
biden screwed these RINOs two hours later

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Originally posted by sigalert:
He’s lost it. I can’t believe this insanity.

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Originally posted by sdy:
And Mr. Biden and progressives will blame them for the failure.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
So the RINOs have pissed off most of the Republicans (in the Senate and at the grass roots level, mind), have been made to look like fools in front of everyone else, and now get to go home to trill about "reaching across the aisle in order to get things done for the American people" to their constituents!

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Originally posted by sdy:
on page 280 there is a pic of 5 RINO REP senators agreeing to a "bipartisan" infrastructure plan.

biden screwed these RINOs two hours later

https://www.powerlineblog.com/...ble-cross-system.php

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White House Scrambles To Manage Fallout Of Biden's 'Tandem' Remarks
Christopher Cadelago and Natasha Korecki, with Alex Thompson Politico, 6/25/2021

Joe Biden said the quiet part out loud and paid a price for it. Reveling in his bipartisan win on infrastructure Thursday, the president declared that he would not sign the deal he'd just endorsed unless a separate bill including his other domestic priorities arrived on his desk, too. Whether deliberate or not, the comment set off a cascade of events in and out of the Oval Office that had aides putting out fires the next day and raised questions about the future of their prized $1 trillion bipartisan deal.

With Republicans threatening to abandon the deal, Steve Ricchetti, one of Biden's lead negotiator, who a day earlier had been credited by the president for his efforts shepherding the deal, scrambled to contain the fallout on Capitol Hill. Both he and Louisa Terrell, the White House top congressional liaison, told the senators involved in the negotiations that Biden was enthusiastic about the deal and would soon hit the road to tout its benefits as well as the merits of bipartisanship.

According to two sources familiar with his efforts, Ricchetti told Republicans that the White House was going to clarify the comments.
A White House official disputed the notion that Ricchetti suggested Biden may have misspoke - an impression that those two sources said was left. The official said that the president's team anticipated dustups during the early phases of the process and noted that White House press secretary Jen Psaki several times during Friday's briefing took a softer tone than Biden did on Thursday.

But the clean up was not to the degree some Republicans hoped. During her daily briefing, Psaki said it shouldn't have been surprising to the GOP senators that Biden planned to proceed on "two tracks," a point that didn't address their concerns about Biden's implicit veto threat.

By mid-afternoon, the fury over the president's remarks had subsided for some after an afternoon phone call between key Senate negotiators on the package. But others remained frustrated, and the episode underscores the delicate nature of both the deal itself and the relationships among the principals involved. Even for Biden - who proudly touts his capacity to glad-hand - it has proven difficult to maintain consensus among a small group of moderate Senators from both parties.

That may be because the path to passing either of those plans is painfully thin. While Republicans scoffed at Biden for pledging that he would only sign the infrastructure bill "in tandem" with another reconciliation package that Democrats expect to pass on their own, liberals cheered him on. After months of fears that they would lose out on some of their top priorities if the White House worked with Republicans, the president had provided them with a clear path forward for moving climate change legislation, Medicare expansion and many more progressive priorities.

Inside the White House, there is a belief that Senate Republicans outside the group of negotiators are keen on finding any means they can to kill the deal. And senior Democrats portrayed Republicans as feigning outrage over something they should have known to be the case all along. "Some of this is performative - those Republicans presumably read the occasional newspaper and knew that the 2-bill thing was the only ticket," Third Way's Matt Bennett wrote in a text. "So I think they'll get over their shock (SHOCK) at Biden's making it plain."

But, elsewhere, the White House gave off hints of trying to walk back Biden's comments without acknowledging they were doing so. The president personally spoke to Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) on Friday - the top negotiator for the Democrats - and told her he would "fight to pass the Bipartisan Agreement, as he committed to the group," according to a White House readout of the call. The statement was careful to note that Biden had mentioned his support for the reconciliation bill while standing alongside the group of senators during a press availability outside of the White House Thursday.

Psaki, meanwhile, never explicitly reiterated Biden's threat to not sign the infrastructure bill if the reconciliation package didn't come, too. She told reporters that the president "fully expects, hopes, plans to sign both into law ans he will leave it to leaders in Congress to determine the timeline and the sequencing."

Republicans weren't pleased with the line from Psaki and pushed back on the idea that they would have agreed to their deal if they knew it was conditioned on the partisan bill. But Democrats remained confident that the infrastructure package was not in jeopardy. "I still think there is a better chance that this gets to 70 votes than it gets to 59 because all those members negotiated in good faith for months," said Jon Kott, a former senior advisor for Democratic Sens. Joe Manchin and Chris Coons. "Nothing has come out today that people didn't know yesterday."

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Originally posted by divil:

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I wonder if the FBI is corrupt.

I don’t think you have to wonder any longer.

F amous
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Originally posted by bigdeal:
I so hope Alaskans have had enough of this moron and opt to send her packing.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
"Because the only two choices we're willing to leave you 'moderates' with is to look either incredibly weak or incredibly stupid. You know."

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
I so hope Alaskans have had enough of this moron and opt to send her packing.

That moron has never been elected with a majority of the vote.

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If these morons had any character at all (which they don't), they'd align with the rest of the Repub Senators and oppose all of this Biden BS

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Originally posted by sdy:
So what is the basis for Biden's comment ?

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Originally posted by sdy:
https://www.breitbart.com/poli...under-2nd-amendment/

CLAIM: During his June 23, 2021, gun control speech President Joe Biden claimed the Second Amendment prohibited Americans from purchasing a cannon at the time it was ratified.

VERDICT: False.

Biden said, “The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of the people who could own a gun [and] what type of weapon you could own. You couldn’t buy a cannon.”

Biden’s claim about not being allowed to purchase cannons is not new. He made it on May 21, 2020, and it was, at that time, shown to be false by PolitiFact.

PolitiFact noted Biden comparing “assault weapons” to cannons, saying: “They have no rationale for being owned by individuals on the street. They should be outlawed… From the very beginning you weren’t allowed to have certain weapons. You weren’t allowed to own a cannon during the Revolutionary War as an individual.”

Julie Anne Sweet, director of military studies at Baylor University, told PolitiFact: “It seems highly unlikely that there were restrictions on the private ownership [of cannons].”

Independent Institute’s Dave Kopel told PolitiFact, “I am not aware of a ban on any arm in colonial America.”

The Second Amendment did not forbid the purchase of a cannon.

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many people have pointed out that privateers fought in the revolutionary war on ships with cannons privately owned

So what is the basis for Biden's comment ?