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January 22, 2021, 08:36 PM
V-Tail
Joe Biden on the campaign trail: "If you like your health care plan, ..." // biden is out !
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Originally posted by Gustofer:

They were told to "order arms", which means that they were presenting arms (saluting). I doubt they were saluting him though as I was always taught that you hold the salute until returned or the person is six steps past you. (I think it was six)
It has been a long, long, time since I drilled, Navy boot camp was 1956, but I'm pretty sure that I remember this: "order arms" had the rifle parallel to your right leg, butt resting on the ground; this was not equivalent to a salute. "Present arms" had the rifle held vertically in front of you.

You younger folks, who have been through this more recently -- am I remembering this correctly?



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January 22, 2021, 08:44 PM
bald1
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:

They were told to "order arms", which means that they were presenting arms (saluting). I doubt they were saluting him though as I was always taught that you hold the salute until returned or the person is six steps past you. (I think it was six)
It has been a long, long, time since I drilled, Navy boot camp was 1956, but I'm pretty sure that I remember this: "order arms" had the rifle parallel to your right leg, butt resting on the ground; this was not equivalent to a salute. "Present arms" had the rifle held vertically in front of you.

You younger folks, who have been through this more recently -- am I remembering this correctly?


Spot on V-Tail! Big Grin



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January 22, 2021, 09:22 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:

They were told to "order arms", which means that they were presenting arms (saluting). I doubt they were saluting him though as I was always taught that you hold the salute until returned or the person is six steps past you. (I think it was six)
It has been a long, long, time since I drilled, Navy boot camp was 1956, but I'm pretty sure that I remember this: "order arms" had the rifle parallel to your right leg, butt resting on the ground; this was not equivalent to a salute. "Present arms" had the rifle held vertically in front of you.

Yes. What I was trying to say, though, is that you can't order arms unless they are being presented first. And "arms" can be a hand salute or a rifle in front of you (also considered a salute). This is Army BTW, perhaps it's different in the Marines/Navy.

They were saluting someone, it's just not clear to me who that someone was. I suspect that it was someone walking in front of Slow Joe and that this was before the inauguration as I can't imagine that Marines would not salute the CIC.


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January 22, 2021, 10:19 PM
Ironbutt
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by ugeesta:

Does he say 'salute the Marines' or 'good looking Marines'. My ears hear both depending on the way I'm thinking.


I don't know, but was this before or after he took the oath? The marines didn't salute so I'm assuming it's prior.


I'm pretty sure that's the case. He was a civilian at the time & not Commander in Chief, so he doesn't rate a salute.

Still, it might be a good idea to keep the fencing up around the Capitol so he doesn't wander too far away from his caretakers, and start following the squirrels & pigeons around.


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January 22, 2021, 10:34 PM
nhtagmember
I wonder if their going to give him a gps bracelet like they give dementia patients at assisted living properties.

Just tell him it’s a digital watch.
January 22, 2021, 10:50 PM
jljones
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I wonder if their going to give him a gps bracelet like they give dementia patients at assisted living properties.

Just tell him it’s a digital watch.


During his last haircut, they microchipped him like a dog.




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January 22, 2021, 11:08 PM
Il Cattivo
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
I am nevertheless speculating about the invocation of the 25th.

I understand, and I certainly believe that the handlers can make it all work long enough for several things to go wrong. And, yeah, it only makes sense to accept that a compounded perception problem and an unskilled President isn't as dangerous as a President who's mentally incompetent.

I guess my worry was having to limp along with a badly weakened President for four years (even the fraud or the bawd), but that would wind up being the case either way.
January 23, 2021, 04:56 AM
gearhounds
quote:
Originally posted by Krazeehorse:
I personally believe Joe will walk away without a fight if he is asked to do so.

I firmly believe that’s always been the plan and old Creepy Joe has been on it from the start. Remember when he said if he and Harris disagree morally on something, he’d “develop a disease and step down”?

The DemocRATS are all about their useful idiots and Biden is as malleable as they come.




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January 23, 2021, 09:12 AM
Skull Leader
https://www.foxnews.com/politi...ory-in-coming-months

Well isn't that convenient.
January 23, 2021, 10:12 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by Skull Leader:
https://www.foxnews.com/politi...ory-in-coming-months

Well isn't that convenient.


"Biden says 'nothing we can do' to change pandemic 'trajectory' in coming months"



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January 23, 2021, 10:36 AM
BMR
quote:
Originally posted by az4783054:
scary thought: harris could pick hillary as VP, then harris resigns because she's in over her head.

two puppets gone and one of the puppet masters is in the Oval Office. Roll Eyes


Scary, but with a ray of hope - President Trump runs again, beats the Hildebeast and puts her in the grave where she belongs due the the misery of being beaten by him twice.



January 23, 2021, 10:53 AM
parabellum
OK, so this thread needs to be locked, yes? We need to cease all politcal discussion, yes?

If this is the kind of thing you guys are going to post, I'll shut all of it down, indefinitely.

And don't think for one second that it's an idle threat. Some longtime members may recall that for several months in 2013- after Obama was elected- I placed a moratorium on all politcal discussion- all of it. It was like stopping a freight train on a downhill grade but I managed it.

If you guys want that again, just keep up with this "here's how Hillary can become POTUS" NONSENSE.

Cut it out. You guys need a place to discuss politics, I understand that, and you need to understand that I am not going to sit here and listen to NONSENSE and pure speculation.

STOP with the ridiculous hypotheticals.


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January 23, 2021, 10:55 AM
Il Cattivo
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
"Biden says 'nothing we can do' to change pandemic 'trajectory' in coming months"

Dear God. Less than three weeks in, and we're already back in the heart of Obamaland - that is, trying to make a virtue of learned (hell, he's progressive, we'll call it "anticipated") helplessness.
January 23, 2021, 12:15 PM
LS1 GTO
Biden's list of accomplishments (so far):

1. Killed 11,000 jobs with an estimated $1.3B in annual wages and salaries. Layoffs began 22 Jan 2021. ("Keystone pipeline" Executive Order)

2. Potentially killed another 3,000 to 6,000 jobs in New Mexico and Utah by stopping new petroleum drilling on federal lands. ("Keystone pipeline" EO)

3. Admitted he really didn't have a plan to deal with COVID as he claimed when campaigning. (As reported by Fox news, 23 Jan)

4. The first person he fired after taking office was a black man (the Surgeon General)






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January 23, 2021, 01:30 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
Biden's list of accomplishments (so far):

1. Killed 11,000 jobs with an estimated $1.3B in annual wages and salaries. Layoffs began 22 Jan 2021. ("Keystone pipeline" Executive Order)

2. Potentially killed another 3,000 to 6,000 jobs in New Mexico and Utah by stopping new petroleum drilling on federal lands. ("Keystone pipeline" EO)

3. Admitted he really didn't have a plan to deal with COVID as he claimed when campaigning. (As reported by Fox news, 23 Jan)

4. The first person he fired after taking office was a black man (the Surgeon General)

You forgot...

5. Issued an EO countermanding Trump's EO lowering prescription drug prices for Americans--ensuring Americans continue to pay more than citizens in other developed nations.



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January 23, 2021, 03:08 PM
Graniteguy
And don't leave out the US re-entry into the Paris Climate Agreement and transgender sports participation.
January 23, 2021, 03:41 PM
Cookster
I’ve yet to see the actual order or EO, but we now have this little gem of a gift from the new regime if confirmed true (from Breitbart) -

ICE Agents Ordered to Free All Illegal Aliens in Custody: ‘Release Them All’


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January 23, 2021, 03:44 PM
Scoutmaster
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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
And don't leave out the US re-entry into the Paris Climate Agreement . . .


The Paris Climate Agreement will save the planet, just as California's tree hugging forest policies prevents wildfires. Wink




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January 23, 2021, 04:20 PM
bigdeal
Unsurprising, everything Biden did on day one hurt the US and its citizens, and I would argue, the world community. Not one GD thing benefited anyone who works and pays taxes. Make no mistake, the lines have been drawn in the sand already. This president and this administration are our enemy. They will do far more lasting damage to this country than the Taliban, Al Queda, and ISIS could combined. 'Unity'...screw that. I want nothing to do with this retarded un-American POS and his cabal of grifters and socialist wannabees. I don't know where we go from here, by I for one am done bending and compromising to try and promote peace.


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January 23, 2021, 04:27 PM
Graniteguy
quote:
Originally posted by Cookster:
I’ve yet to see the actual order or EO, but we now have this little gem of a gift from the new regime if confirmed true (from Breitbart) -

ICE Agents Ordered to Free All Illegal Aliens in Custody: ‘Release Them All’


At least only 71% of them are convicted criminals or awaiting trial for crimes.

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