Biden called another lid at 9:52 AM this morning.

If we had a normal, functioning media in this country they would be asking some questions, but since it's a dem, nah, we'll just pretend this is normal.

This guy is running for president and I've worked twice as many hours/days as him this month.

By looking at the calendar it appears Joe works every other day and Tuesday is not a work day.

So far it looks like Joe is going to surprise many of us and actually show up.

Still time to catch the China virus before Tuesday, so nothing is set in stone.

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So far it looks like Joe is going to surprise many of us and actually show up.
Still time to catch the China virus before Tuesday, so nothing is set in stone.

I think he will show. If you asked me a month ago I would have said No Way!
It'll be interesting!

My opinion is that they are changing his sleep schedule up so he will be alert later on in the evening during the debate. He'll be there.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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So far it looks like Joe is going to surprise many of us and actually show up.
Still time to catch the China virus before Tuesday, so nothing is set in stone.

I think he will show. If you asked me a month ago I would have said No Way!
It'll be interesting!

He and his handlers know that all he has to do is remain upright and appear at least semi lucid and the media will declare him the winner and best debater in the history of presidential debates. You know he has the specific questions and his team has been drilling him on the answers - no way he is going into this cold.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Still time to catch the China virus before Tuesday, so nothing is set in stone.

I've asked you guys four or five times to stop saying this stupid unfounded shit. Here we are, one day away from the debate and you guys are STILL offering up this same Goddamned stupid crap. Two days after the debates, someone is still going to be saying it, I'll bet. Stop it. You are WRONG. Accept it. You are wrong. Damn, this is so silly. It's nothing but cool-sounding, silly speculation. Stop it.

All Trump has to do as Para said is rattle him early on and none of this prep will matter.

If he does show up, I guarantee you Trump will have him reduced to a ranting, babbling mess within 10 minutes. Chris Wallace will have to stop in to save him, you watch.

He'll show up and be his normal self....it will not matter. The 'media' will declare him the winner and insist Trump was publicly flogged. This narrative can only be changed by voters.

Joe Biden Exploited S-Corporation Loophole to Avoid Payroll Tax

The establishment media is all aflutter Monday after a New York Times story over the weekend about incumbent GOP President Donald Trump’s tax records, but it turns out Democrat candidate former Vice President Joe Biden used a series of tax code loopholes to avoid paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes over the years.

Back in August, the Wall Street Journal’s Chris Jacobs exposed how the Biden family structured what is called an “S-Corp” to avoid paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes.

“How the Bidens Dodged the Payroll Tax,” was Jacobs’ headline on Aug. 10.

In it, the Journal details how the Bidens set up an S-Corporation to avoid paying more than half a million dollars in taxes they would have otherwise owed.

“Joe Biden responded to President Trump’s partial suspension of payroll-tax collections with a statement calling it the ‘first shot in a new, reckless war on Social Security,’” Jacobs wrote. He continued: “‘Our seniors and millions of Americans with disabilities are under enough stress without Trump putting their hard-earned Social Security benefits in doubt.’ Mr. Biden’s objections might be more persuasive had he and his wife, Jill, not gone out of their way to avoid funding seniors’ entitlement benefits. According to their tax returns, in 2017 and 2018 the Bidens and his wife Jill avoided payroll taxes on nearly $13.3 million in income from book royalties and speaking fees. They did so by classifying the income as S-corporation profits rather than taxable wages.”

Jacobs continued in his expose by noting the corporation the Bidens established to avoid paying the payroll taxes on millions of dollars in income amounts to more than half a million dollars in taxes that Joe and Jill Biden did not pay.

“According to the Urban Institute, a couple featuring one high earner and one average earner, retiring this year, will have paid a total of $209,000 in Medicare taxes during their working lives,” Jacobs wrote. “The Bidens avoided paying nearly twice that much in Medicare taxes during two years. The maximum payroll tax affected by Mr. Trump’s suspension is $1,984—less than 1/250th of the amount the Bidens avoided in 2017-18. The Bidens didn’t avoid any Social Security tax, which applied only to the first $127,200 of income in 2017 and $128,400 in 2018. But they would under Mr. Biden’s tax plan, which would impose the 12.4% Social Security tax on income over $400,000; the same loophole he used in 2017-18 would shield him from his own tax. And how can Mr. Biden claim to protect Medicare and ObamaCare when he avoided more than $500,000 in taxes that fund the two programs? The media have largely ignored the Bidens’ accounting legerdemain, fixating on Mr. Trump’s tax returns instead. But at least the president isn’t looking to raise taxes on everyone else.”

“The former vice president and 2020 presidential contender and his wife Jill Biden reported about $10 million in income in 2017 from a pair of S-corporations, CelticCapri and Giacoppa,” Mercado wrote in CNBC. “The two entities were paid for the couple’s book deals and speaking gigs. That mean any amounts the Bidens received as a distribution wasn’t subject to the 15.3% combined Social Security and Medicare tax. Here’s how it works. S-corporations pay their employee shareholders in two ways: wages and distributions.The S-corps reported another $3.2 million in income in 2018.”

In other words, on much of the income Joe and Jill Biden generated through the corporations they established to pay themselves—CelticCapri and Giacoppa are the names of the two so-called S-Corporations—they did not have to pay payroll taxes collected to fund Social Security and Medicare.

Those on the left are not happy with the Bidens over the hypocrisy, either. The Intercept’s Ryan Grim in 2019 noted Biden has used Delaware corporation laws to hide his financial information from the American people.

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...cial-security-taxes/

joe forgot about that...

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
By looking at the calendar it appears Joe works every other day and Tuesday is not a work day.

I've said it before, and I continue to be convinced that it's probably true: this is Bob Dole's revenge - no one will ever accuse him of running a half-assed, lazy campaign for the Presidency again now that Biden is the poster boy for half-assed, lazy Presidential campaigning.

Rush Limbaugh was theorizing Friday from what he’s been hearing that Biden was taken back to the bunker and will remain there more or less until Election Day because his handlers actually think he’s got the election in the bag and any more exposure is MORE DAMAGING than the hiding! If you notice, he’s got ads everywhere on TV and YouTube as well and it’s giving people the impression he’s actually out there like Trump has been all along.

If you ask me, they are repeating the same exact mistake that Hillary made where she thought she had this and she didn’t need to campaign and skipped several crucial states altogether.

Dr. Jill dismisses talk of Joe's gaffes -- "You can't even go there". Just like "C'mon Man", knee-jerk Biden response implies you're the problem for bringing something up.




Twatter

Snake oil salesmen pops to mind every time Democrats speak

jill & joe have gaffe denial down to a science. But let President Trump make one mistake and it's all over the media.

Wouldn't it be something if in the course of the debate Trump says: "... C'mon Man, Joe ..."

^^^^ That would be uterrly stupid. You want him to sound like slow Joe? You want Joe to say “see, Trump thinks I’m smart enough to rip off.”?

'If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan.'

--- thanks! I like the Trump plan.

Biden Dodged $500K In Taxes By Exploiting Loophole

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...-exploiting-loophole

Since the left is now in histrionics over President Trump's perfectly legal use of the US tax code to avoid paying taxes for 10 out of the last 15 years, perhaps they'll give as much attention to Joe Biden - who used another perfectly legal tax 'loophole' to avoid approximately $500,000 in payroll taxes on $15 million in income.

Of course, they ignored it in July when the Wall Street Journal reported that Joe and Jill Biden took advantage of the "S corporation" payroll tax loophole that the Obama-Biden administration unsuccessfully attempted to close.

According to the report, the Bidens routed income from book sales and speeches through S corporations - avoiding the 3.8% self-employment tax they would have paid if they had been compensated directly, and avoiding as much as $500,000 in taxes.

"There’s no reason for these to be in an S corp—none, other than to save on self-employment tax," accountant Tony Nitti told the WSJ at the time.

And as the Journal's Chris Jacobs wrote last month, "According to the Urban Institute, a couple featuring one high earner and one average earner, retiring this year, will have paid a total of $209,000 in Medicare taxes during their working lives."

"The Bidens avoided paying nearly twice that much in Medicare taxes during two years."

Meanwhile, the Las Vegas Review-Journal suggests Biden is a hypocrite - as the former Vice President has been an outspoken opponent of such loopholes since Ronald Reagan was in office.

Per current tax law, S-corporation owners can legally avoid paying the 3.8 percent self-employment tax on their profits as long as they pay themselves “reasonable compensation” that is subject to regular payroll taxes. The IRS definition of “reasonable compensation” is a tad fuzzy, however, which led to the Bidens reporting less than $800,000 salary on their reported $13 million in combined profits. -Las Vegas Review-Journal

In 2019, The Intercept's Ryan Grimm shed light on the Bidens' use of Delaware corporation laws to conceal financial information (via Breitbart):

"The Bidens have used their home state’s financial privacy laws to shield his income from public view, by setting up two tax- and transparency-avoidance vehicles known as S corporations," wrote Grimm. "He and his wife Jill Biden called them CelticCapri Corp. and Giacoppa Corp., respectively, and, according to the Wall Street Journal, have reported more than $13 million in profits the previous two years that weren’t subject to specific disclosure or self-employment taxes. As CNBC has described, money Biden made from book deals and speeches flowed into the S corporations and was then remitted to Biden and his wife as ‘distributions’ rather than salary. When money is funneled through an S corporation, the recipient doesn’t owe Social Security or Medicare taxes on it, nor can the source of revenue be traced. (In addition to the distributions, the Bidens drew relatively small salaries from the S Corporations: under half a million dollars, for which they owed self-employment taxes.)"

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Originally posted by smschulz:
Wouldn't it be something if in the course of the debate Trump says: "... C'mon Man, Joe ..."

Better would be Trump stating..."You actually think that "Come on man" stuff is going to work with world leaders like President Xi Jinping or Kim Jong Un. Answer the question Joe and try to keep it to two gaffes or less."