quote:

Originally posted by arfmel:
Remington has been making muzzleloaders based on the Model 700 for at least 15 years.

The rifle involved was, in fact, a Remington 700 muzzleloader:

Remington makes an "in line black powder muzzle loader"
It is constructed using a Model 700 receiver.

They look just like a regular rifle.

Many things can go wrong with a black powder rifle. Not seating the bullet against the powder will make a gun go boom just like the photos

It a remington muzzle loader alright it use a pre primed case system. The loop that holds the ram rod is still there on parts of the barrel but is missing a ram rod but don't know if it was in the barrel or not. I got no idea what this guy did because of the pre primed case system. But he sure did a good job. Hope he never uses a chainsaw from the looks of this mess.

https://www.remington.com/rifl...ltimate-muzzleloader.

Learn something new everyday! Thanks for the info on the muzzleloader, never knew that.

I have seen the 700 muzzle loader but not with a muzzle brake / sight setup. Maybe that's why it was at the smith? To install the brake?

quote:

Originally posted by ensigmatic:
WTF?!?! Who has their barrel "cleaned by a gunsmith?"

If you can't clean and lube it, you shouldn't be shooting it.

Yup.

tac

A muzzle brake on a muzzle-loader? WTF?

Must think about getting one for my 1885 45-70 High Wall - that can be a bit of a kicker....

tac

'1st shot of the season'? Most likely a charge & projectile left in from last season.

The next most likely is a bore obstruction of some type. I think it's less likely that it's an overcharge.

I store my Knight with the breechplug out. It's easier to give the once-over in the off season, no way to ever leave a charge in.

I saw pictures, I forget where, of somebody bore sighting a rifle, then firing a shot ... without taking the bore sighter out. The barrel blew to ribbons like that one.

Yes, a 'bore sighter' tool left in would do it also. That's not all uncommon nowadays.

Looking at it again, I guess the item on the muzzle brake is the mount for the ramrod, not a sight.

The pic's got the best of me ,I dug out my
700 M L
That smith must have re barreled it,no rear site like mine and it is also fluted.
There are screw holes where part of front site was.
Barrel looks to be stainless.
Mine is blue steel and its so old the bolt knob has turned plum.
I wish I could post pic's to show the differences.
The thing folks think are some siting device is the ram rod band that rides about six inches back behind the muzzle
I could not get clear detain on warnings on barrel but they are there.

I have one of these rifles and I can see how it could happen. You remove the primer and put the gun in the rack thinking you are going to go out again but don't go so it sits in the rack for a year with a charge in the barrel. The first thing I do when I get my in-line out is measure for a charge with the ramrod and then fire a primer through it to be sure before loading a new charge. If you load another charge and slug on top of the one that's already there and fire this will likely happen.

quote:

Originally posted by 45 Cal:
The pic's got the best of me ,I dug out my
700 M L
That smith must have re barreled it,no rear site like mine and it is also fluted.
There are screw holes where part of front site was.
Barrel looks to be stainless.
Mine is blue steel and its so old the bolt knob has turned plum.

The one in the photos (that was involved in this incident) is a 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader.

That model comes with a fluted stainless barrel with no sights.

It doesn't appear to have been rebarrelled. Looks like they just threaded the factory barrel for that muzzle brake.



https://www.remington.com/rifl...ltimate-muzzleloader

Thanks Rogue
Did a little digging also,the ones I have use #11 primers,this is a more modern type with different setup and extra under the stock assembly.
I will send pic's to you so you can see what old ones look like.