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Wanting to move my washer dryer to a spot where venting is a real pain.

Does anyone have experience with vent-less clothes dryers?
 
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No, but I spent a few years living in a place where the dryer vented into a woman's hose that was tie wrapped onto the exhaust vent.

Worked very well, but heated up the place.
 
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I know lots of ways to install an internal vent and all of them are not up to code and are illegal.

I just might have to rip out a ceiling and vent to the outside but want to avoid it.
 
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When we first moved into our house almost forty years ago we didn't have the dryer vented.
After we saw how much humidity was put into the air (plus the heat) we quickly decided to get the vent installed.



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I can tell you from personal experience that the vents that go up through the wall to the roof don't work nearly as well as venting straight out through an exterior wall. I can only imagine how bad a ventless would be.
 
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My in-laws home has a dryer that vents into a bucket of water. As far as I know, it works. But thinking about the maintenance on that forever, I’d suck it up and do it right the first time!


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I’ve had a Miele heat pump dryer for 2 years, and it is hands down the best dryer we’ve had. We actually have a vent in our laundry room, but heat pump dryers don’t use vents. Humidity has never been a problem - we keep a hygrometer in the room, and RH isn’t measurably affected.

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I’ve had an Electrolux model EIED200QSW for awhile. Takes a good bit longer to dry but otherwise it works very well. The clothes get very hot in there even at the lowest temperature setting so I only use that setting and everything comes out great. Weird thing is that when timer says 20 minutes left I can take shirts out, give them a quick snap and put them on a hanger. What would have taken 20 minutes to condense evaporates almost instantly and I don’t need to iron.

Wasn’t wild about getting it but it was all that was available in that size at the time. It’s grown on me over time though and I do like the results, which is what really matters.
 
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My grandmother used to have her dryer and washer in the garage….the dryer vented to that double car garage. But it was also vented to the outside as the garage had a 8x10 area that was concrete venting. The house was built after WWII and is in Fla.



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If/when my current dryer needs replacing, this is the type I'll be replacing it with.




 
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My in-laws home has a dryer that vents into a bucket of water. As far as I know, it works. But thinking about the maintenance on that forever, I’d suck it up and do it right the first time!


I had one of these. It sucked having to empty the gross lint water and made the kitchen (where dryer was for some reason) hot as hell.



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This is a timely thread, hope to hear from others who've had experience with these. We are in midst of drawing some house plans and the non-outer wall location of laundry was going to be a problem, builder wants to rearrange things to make this work. These drier types, which I didn't even know existed, may be an option!



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You are in hot and humid country. May be an issue.
 
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You are in hot and humid country. May be an issue.


Exactly. I'm surprised nobody with a physics background chimed in.

You are using between 2000 and 6000 watts for your dryer, hence the large 240 VAC plug.

All that heat that is made by the dryer is going to stay in your home, which might be a benefit if you are in Idaho in January, but the again, it's moist air. Yuck.

But if you are in Dallas in August, you're just taxing your air conditioner that much more to keep your house cool.

The reason I was hoping someone who knows physics would chime in is I think if your dryer is using 4000 watts, and all exhaust is in your house, then your air conditioner has to use ANOTHER 4000 watts to cool your house again. So I think it's double the energy that you would have used.

Anyone know if that's right????

Oh, not to mention it's damp warm air, which might cause condensation on cooler things in your house. Leads to mold, etc. yuck.


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You are in hot and humid country. May be an issue.


Exactly. I'm surprised nobody with a physics background chimed in.

You are using between 2000 and 6000 watts for your dryer, hence the large 240 VAC plug.

All that heat that is made by the dryer is going to stay in your home, which might be a benefit if you are in Idaho in January, but the again, it's moist air. Yuck.

But if you are in Dallas in August, you're just taxing your air conditioner that much more to keep your house cool.

The reason I was hoping someone who knows physics would chime in is I think if your dryer is using 4000 watts, and all exhaust is in your house, then your air conditioner has to use ANOTHER 4000 watts to cool your house again. So I think it's double the energy that you would have used.

Anyone know if that's right????

Oh, not to mention it's damp warm air, which might cause condensation on cooler things in your house. Leads to mold, etc. yuck.


I think they are talking about a heat pump unit. Never heard of one before, but if the evaporator and condensor are in the same space very little of the heat should be put into the space. Also I would assume any hot air expelled will pass over the evaporator before being put into the house acting as dehumidifier, which would bring up the question of drain line or condensate pump.

I am just guessing how they work because I've never seen one. If designed as I imagine it, heat and moisture shouldn't be a concern.



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^^^ interesting, thanks for the info. I wonder if they use more energy than the 3000 to 6000 watts typical for residential units It seems like you usually don't get something for nothing Smile

ETA: I guess if it took too much more in terms of amps than a standard unit, then standard residential wiring couln't be used, so that's a limit. On the other hand, maybe it has to run longer to get stuff dry....


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^^^ interesting, thanks for the info. I wonder if they use more energy than the 3000 to 6000 watts typical for residential units It seems like you usually don't get something for nothing Smile

ETA: I guess if it took too much more in terms of amps than a standard unit, then standard residential wiring couln't be used, so that's a limit. On the other hand, maybe it has to run longer to get stuff dry....


Got curious and googled them. Here's a video of how it works, it's a completely closed system so very little heat, except maybe from the compressor motor will be going into the air. Also watched a video of some guy with an amp meter, and in his unscientific experiment it was less than 1/3 the energy, which could be expected as mechanical heat is more efficient than resistive heat.




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We have a heat pump type Siemens unit in our house in France. No vent was possible and that was the only solution. It has a tank that fills with water, and you remove it, pour it out each load just like you routinely cleaning the lint filter. Generally it dries adequately, but certainly not as well as the nice gas dryer at our US home. The clothes seem to have a minor damp feeling in them when the cycle is complete.
 
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Originally posted by teombe:
I’ve had a Miele heat pump dryer for 2 years, and it is hands down the best dryer we’ve had. We actually have a vent in our laundry room, but heat pump dryers don’t use vents. Humidity has never been a problem - we keep a hygrometer in the room, and RH isn’t measurably affected.

Miele Dryers

teombe, I have a question for you. On their website they show the drain hose, but they don't say if the water is pumped up the tube, to say a washer drain pipe, or if it's a gravity drain only. Which setup is yours ?




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