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I do have the svc manual. Will have to look through it again for tqe values. It's a pretty basic manual, though & covers the Scout/Spirit & Chief for 99-01.

F-I-L is debating on having the new arm chromed before we install, that'll add a bit of time to the project.

Personally, I'm ok with the black.


Well, it's his bike LOL

Agree, Black would look better...

Do you have a harbor freight store near you, if so pickup a bottle of red and blue locktite if you don't have it, you get more for your money than auto parts stores.
 
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That's a "Gilroy" Indian I believe. A lot of Harley parts will interchange. Those rear sprocket (in your case) bolts have a specific torque value and just like my Dyna require red Loctite. DO NOT re-use ANY of those bolts; replace them every time you have them out. After all, you now know what happens if a bolt lets go.


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Thanks again for the tips.

Found most of the tqe specs in the svc manual. So will be looking everything over while it's disassembled.




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New swingarm & chain guard are back from chrome.
Need to get a new rear sprocket ordered.

Father-in-law is out of town this weekend, so probably next weekend we'll get it torn down & replaced.

Ready to be back in the saddle.




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I wonder if those bolts had been removed before if there is no locktite on them. I would think they had some from the factory.


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I've see this before, buddy's fatboy in the NC mountains, said it made a noise when he turned left, three of the bolts were loose, the Indy shop that replaced his tire before he left didn't locktite the bolts back in.

That has no reason to be removed to service the rear tire/brakes so Red will save your life.

Sounds like the bike needs a good going over, those older softail style frames are ridged mounted and they vibrate quite a bit, blue and red loctite are required.

Red - don't want it to come loose
Blue - need to be able to take it loose


Follow up to these posts.

We pulled the rear wheel today & took off the gouged sprocket.

Of the sprocket bolts we could get an allen to fit (3/5), they all removed easily.
1/5 had the allen slot gouged, but there was just enough to get a pair of challen locks onto & remove.
None of these bolts had any loctite on them. Eek

Father-in-law is taking the wheel to a couple shops today to see about having the broken stud extracted. Local Harley dealer didn't want to touch it (over the phone) since it's not a Harley. Indian dealer wouldn't, since it's not a Polaris Indian.
Probably could've told the Harley dealer it was a Softail wheel & gotten a bite.

New swingarm & chain guard are in the garage, new chrome is mighty pretty.

Looks like we just need to disconnect the rear shocks & brake caliper, then pull the pivot bolts to drop the old swingarm.
Question now, is if we're going to have enough clearance on the right side. The R pivot bolt looks like it'll hit the rear cylinder exhaust. Cross that road when we get there.




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Update:

Spent Friday afternoon & Saturday morning pulling the bent swingarm & prepping and installing the new one.
The guy my f-i-l used in CA said it was about a 4 hour job. All in, I'd say we spent between 6-8 hours.

Worst part, was getting the threaded sleeve mounted between the swingarm pivot bushings. Extremely tight fit, and once we got that installed, we realized that the chain has to split it, so we had to remove it to get the chain in the proper placement.
Looking at my prior post, the R pivot bolt did hit the rear exhaust muffler. Luckily, we were able to remove a frame bolt & tilt the exhaust, rather than removing it from the head.

Got out for an hour shakedown ride to make sure everything was riding properly & to get some mileage on the new rear tire.
All went well in the end, apart from the new rear tire being a little underinflated & my f-i-l running out of gas about a mile from the house (makes me love having a gas gauge on the Vulcan).

We'll give it a 2nd check-through on all the bolts before getting it back on the road again.





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Glad you’re back on the road. Too bad you missed out on 6 or 8 weeks of awesome motorcycle weather and now it’s the miserably humid time of year to ride.



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Looking good, yeah it has to be a tight fit on the pivot bolt, you don't want that wobbling around.

Replaced my rubber bushings with poly on the heritage as it had a 124 cui engine, and needed a bit of stiffer pucks.

Recheck all the bolts, and it should be good to go
 
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Glad you’re back on the road. Too bad you missed out on 6 or 8 weeks of awesome motorcycle weather and now it’s the miserably humid time of year to ride.


Luckily, I've had the Vulcan on the left for a few weeks now & have been getting some mileage in on it.
We'll have to get a little group ride together if this rain brings some cooler weather our way. My f-i-l has been talking about getting in a longer ride.

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Looking good, yeah it has to be a tight fit on the pivot bolt, you don't want that wobbling around.

Replaced my rubber bushings with poly on the heritage as it had a 124 cui engine, and needed a bit of stiffer pucks.

Recheck all the bolts, and it should be good to go


Yep, luckily we have the factory svc manual & have the torque specs. The bolts weren't bad, it was the threaded 'sleeve' that goes between the pivot bushing that was a bear to install.
Need to get the chain guard installed too, not sure if the chrome plating 'clogged' up the threads, or it the bolts are no good for it. Could only get them about 1/3 in before they got really difficult to turn. Didn't want to strip or snap the bolts.

Houston's due for rain all week, so we'll give it a go-through & maybe get in another ride this weekend, weather permitting.




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my f-i-l running out of gas about a mile from the house
I have never owned a motorcycle that did not have a "reserve" position on the gas valve. I did not even realize that there were motorcycles without this.



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my f-i-l running out of gas about a mile from the house
I have never owned a motorcycle that did not have a "reserve" position on the gas valve. I did not even realize that there were motorcycles without this.


It stalled on him when leaving from a red light. We flipped it to reserve & that got him to the fuel station across the street.
He had tried to switch it to reserve while still rolling, but flipped lever too far past reserve, which was effectively 'Off'.




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my f-i-l running out of gas about a mile from the house
I have never owned a motorcycle that did not have a "reserve" position on the gas valve. I did not even realize that there were motorcycles without this.
It stalled on him when leaving from a red light. We flipped it to reserve & that got him to the fuel station across the street. He had tried to switch it to reserve while still rolling, but flipped lever too far past reserve, which was effectively 'Off'.
Ah, my flight instructor terminology kicking in here, I would tend to label this "fuel mismanagement" rather than "running out of gas."

I think about "running out of gas" in terms of all tanks are dry, "fuel mismanagement" in terms of fuel on board but the pilot has not taken correct action to get the fuel from the tank to the engine.



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my f-i-l running out of gas about a mile from the house
I have never owned a motorcycle that did not have a "reserve" position on the gas valve. I did not even realize that there were motorcycles without this.
It stalled on him when leaving from a red light. We flipped it to reserve & that got him to the fuel station across the street. He had tried to switch it to reserve while still rolling, but flipped lever too far past reserve, which was effectively 'Off'.
Ah, my flight instructor terminology kicking in here, I would tend to label this "fuel mismanagement" rather than "running out of gas."

I think about "running out of gas" in terms of all tanks are dry, "fuel mismanagement" in terms of fuel on board but the pilot has not taken correct action to get the fuel from the tank to the engine.


Correct, and to continue the pilot line. Improper preflight as well, as we didn't check the fuel level before takeoff. Luckily that's much less of an issue on 2 wheels on the ground, as compared to no wheels at 500 ft AGL.




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I got mine back from getting the brake fluid bled out and new put in. The guy went all through my bike and told me it was in incredible condition.


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