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Green grass and high tides |
It is an MDF paneling. Thinking about using it as a ceiling on an inside a building application. .139 thickness so it is pretty thin, but the truss' are spaced 24" oc. There will be R40 insulation blown in above it. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Aut...1394809600/302775248 "Practice like you want to play in the game" | ||
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You'd be fine adhering it to gypsum board substrate. Otherwise, as it indicates in the specs, it's for wall use. I suspect otherwise you may get some sag, especially considering 24" OC. | |||
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Pretty sure the insulation will be too heavy for it with 24" joists spacing. | |||
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Would not do it. It will warp and sag terribly, even if you block the seams. Even if on 16" OC joist. Collecting dust. | |||
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It MIGHT work OK if put on furring strips 12" OC. Collecting dust. | |||
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As Extraordinary as Everyone Else |
That's about 1/8" thick....no way will it support the insulation without significantly bowing. As was mentioned above you could run 2x4 firing strips maybe on 12" centers and it would be better. ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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It will absorb moisture and sag a lot. ______________________________ DONT TREAD ON ME | |||
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Its not flame retardent is it? ________________________ P229 Stainless Elite P320 X-Five Legion P320 X-Carry | |||
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Green grass and high tides |
ok guys, that is why I asked. I knew you guys would know. So this is small cabin. I want to eventually do a wood (cedar or blue knotty pine) walls. But the ceiling is first and I am looking for a ceiling material. We are thinking the walls and ceiling being the same is going to be too much of a good thing. Not sure though. Thoughts on doing the ceiling and what to use? Thanks guys. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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MDF is a very unstable product. Looks like you've gotten some sage advise already. __________________________ If attacked by a mob of clowns, go for the juggler. ----------------------------------- KC P220, KE P226 | |||
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Your best bet is to screw plywood (1/2" to the joists and then glue the mdf panel to the plywood. The plywood will hold the weight of the insulation. | |||
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Actually it is very stable. Just not very strong in the application the OP is asking about. At 24" OC you will get sag, even 12" is pushing it at the material depth indicated. You could put 1x2 Poplar as "Battens" on the outboard side if you wanted rather than furring. Just screw them through the MDF to the joists. | |||
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Have you considered the possibility of using the corrugated metal that they use for metal buildings? That is what we used in our hunting cabin. Prefinished with lots of colors available, plenty strong and comes in pretty good sized sheets. Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. “If in winning a race, you lose the respect of your fellow competitors, then you have won nothing” - Paul Elvstrom "The Great Dane" 1928 - 2016 | |||
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If you really dig wood, I'd shop T&G options. You'll have quite a few options to choose from. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Green grass and high tides |
Thanks guys. Sailor. We did use metal on the roof and exterior siding. It is a good option for the ceiling but my wife is not hot on the idea. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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agreed with everyone that it will sag too much. in my opinion, dark ceilings close in a space and light colors make spaces feel much bigger. if you're after a rustic look, I'd suggest a 1x6 or 1x8 wood plank painted white and maybe distressed to achieve the rustic look. you can t&g or ship lap. if that seems too expensive, 1/4" plywood might be the way to go. battens at the edges. I would paint it, personally, but I've seen plenty where it was not. I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log. | |||
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I'd go with some T&G pine/cedar siding. If you're looking to do knotty pine on the walls eventually I'd try to do the ceiling in that now with some T&g knotty pin car siding or something along those lines. Easier to install than plywood and will give that rustic/cabin look you're going for. Make sure to put a moisture barrier down before putting up the ceiling. I'd also consider prefinishing before install - heck of a lot easier to do it on the ground than on the ceiling. Just keep it out of the tongue/groove. I reject your reality and substitute my own. --Adam Savage, MythBusters | |||
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Green grass and high tides |
What is knotty pine car siding? Thinking we may do T&G cedar on the ceiling and KP on the walls. Might even consider this MDF paneling on the walls. I assume you would just nail it to the framing. 16" oc walls. We could do the walls for around $500 if so. That is pretty appealing. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Aside from physical problems, it will look very dark on a ceiling. The room will seem low and dim. Cave-like, even. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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This! That gives plenty of places to use small headed nails, brads, etc. You can also get nails that are colored so they will not stand out as much. I was originally thinking 16 inch centers, but given how thin that stuff is, 12 inches seems to be better. I would use at least 1x2, probably 1x3s given the probable insulation weight load. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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