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Some things to think about:
1. Most student load debt is held by women
2. DemoKKKrats targeted 18-30 2022 voting demographic with the promise of student loan forgiveness.
3. Less men and more women in college - guess who is more likely to get go into debt for a non-useful degree?
4. If this is so popular, why didn't DemoKKKrats get this passed in Congress? They have control of the Congress & WH?


My thoughts:
No reason Republicans should even think that this is a good idea because this demographic is not going to vote Republican.

People need start pushing for Griggs vs. Duke Power to get overturned.
*banned used of intelligence/aptitude tests for employment.


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Biden's student loan forgiveness program remains blocked for now, Supreme Court says

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court on Thursday said the Biden administration program to cancel student loans will remain blocked for now, but the justices agreed to take up the case in late winter.

The court's decision to hear arguments in about three months means it is likely to determine whether the widespread loan cancellations are legal by late June.

That's about two months before the newly extended pause on loan repayments is set to expire.

The administration had wanted a court order that would have allowed the program to take effect even as court challenges proceed. But as a fallback, it suggested the high court hold arguments and decide the issue.

Biden’s plan promises $10,000 in federal student debt forgiveness to those with incomes of less than $125,000, or households earning less than $250,000. Pell Grant recipients, who typically demonstrate more financial need, are eligible for an additional $10,000 in relief.

The Congressional Budget Office has said the program will cost about $400 billion over the next three decades.


More than 26 million people already applied for the relief, with 16 million approved, but the Education Department stopped processing applications last month after a federal judge in Texas struck down the plan.

The Texas case is one of two in which federal judges have forbidden the administration from implementing the loan cancellations.

In a separate lawsuit filed by six states, a three-judge panel of the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis also put the plan on hold, and that case is before the Supreme Court.

The moratorium had been slated to expire Jan. 1, a date that Biden set before his debt cancellation plan stalled in the face of legal challenges from conservative opponents.

The new expiration date is 60 days after the legal issue has been settled, but no later than the end of August.

Conservative attorneys, Republican lawmakers and business-oriented groups have asserted that Biden overstepped his authority in taking such sweeping action without the assent of Congress. They called it an unfair government giveaway for relatively affluent people at the expense of taxpayers who didn’t pursue higher education.

The administration has argued that the loan cancellations are legal under a 2003 law aimed at providing help to members of the military. The program is a response to "a devastating pandemic with student loan relief designed to protect vulnerable borrowers from delinquency and default," the Justice Department said in court papers.

The law, the HEROES Act, allows the secretary of education to "waive or modify any statutory or regulatory provision applicable to the student financial assistance programs ... as the Secretary deems necessary in connection with a war or other military operation or national emergency."

In putting the program on hold, the 8th Circuit panel said there was little harm to borrowers because repayments have been suspended. Allowing the cancellations to proceed before a definitive court ruling would have had än "irreversible impact," the appeals court said.

U.S. District Judge Mark Pittman, an appointee of former President Donald Trump, issued a more sweeping ruling in which he found that such a costly program required clear congressional authorization.

The justices also will confront an important procedural question, whether anyone who has sued faces any legal or financial harm.

The 8th Circuit judges, two Trump appointees and one judge selected by former President George W. Bush, determined there might be financial costs to the Missouri Higher Education Loan Authority, and said that was enough.

In the Texas case, Pittman wrote that plaintiffs Myra Brown and Alexander Taylor could file their lawsuit, though neither faces financial harm. Brown is ineligible for debt relief because her loans are commercially held, and Taylor is eligible for just $10,000 and not the full $20,000 because he didn’t receive a Pell grant.

But Pittman said it was enough that the government did not take public comments on the program, meaning neither person had a chance to provide input on a program they would be at least partially excluded from.


https://www.fox4news.com/news/...w-supreme-court-says




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Congress controls the budget process, not the executive branch. Period.


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Biden pretty much got what he wanted anyway: kept Dem control of the senate with huge taxpayer-funded bribe to people with student loan debt. And damned near got the house too.



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Win/win: bought the votes at no cost.
Those people aren’t always box o’rocks stupid.




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Win/win: bought the votes at no cost.
Those people aren’t always box o’rocks stupid.

....but their constituency is.....



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Win/win:


That's the problem with this administration, it's all win/win because there's nothing to lose. Same with the Ukraine money laundering/kick back schemes. Why wouldn't they do it? What's the worst that happens, Biden gets impeached and removed? Who cares? He's irrelevant.
 
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I don't think Biden really wanted this to go through. The way it happened he got the benefits AND he can blame the court when it's stopped. Most people are too stupid to understand how this is supposed to work.

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Biden should be impeached. He will never be removed because the majority in the Senate is not there to convict him.
 
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I don't think Biden really wanted this to go through. The way it happened he got the benefits AND he can blame the court when it's stopped. Most people are too stupid to understand how this is supposed to work.

Jim


He had serious doubts that he had the power to do it - he said that several times - so he waited until close to the election to give it a shot. If it works people are happy, if not they can’t blame him, so it’s a win win. Good move on his part.
 
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Jim[/QUOTE]

Good move on his part.[/QUOTE]

Good is not a word I would use for a politically motivated scheme. Even if it was well-played.
 
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Annnnnd the hits just keep coming!

Thank you President Trump!

Supreme Court STRIKES DOWN Biden's $400 billion student loan forgiveness: Justices rule president does not have authority to cancel debt of millions in another landmark ruling


Salty liberal tears are going to flow like rivers this weekend…


 
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Haven't a bunch of loans already been forgiven?

How does that work?
 
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I chose to attend an elite undergraduate college as did my two children. In today's dollars that would be about a half million. It was well worth it. Lets make it contigent upon grades.
It is pure socialism and rewards sloth like behavior. I worked as well.
 
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People need start pushing for Griggs vs. Duke Power to get overturned.
*banned used of intelligence/aptitude tests for employment.

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I do not think that matters. Administration of the WAIS is not a good predictor of college success. Aptitude tests are useless.
 
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Haven't a bunch of loans already been forgiven?

How does that work?


There have been loans forgiven over the years, but those were specifically authorized by Congress via a law. Like if you do certain types of public service work, they can be forgiven after 10 years or something. But the difference here is that what Biden wanted to do wasn’t specifically authorized by Congress, which is why it was rejected.
 
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Congress controls the budget process, not the executive branch. Period.


Yes, and the President cannot unilaterally destroy public and private assets without just compensation to the private actors affected.





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