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April 01, 2026, 01:29 PM
400m
Normally I don’t mouth off to people on the internet
Yesterday I did. I was looking for a reloading page I follow on FB and an article caught my eye. It was about a man who shot his 5 yo while cleaning his AR.

Grazing would folks, the kid is expected to make a full recovery.

I started to read the comments (my mistake), and some holier than thou leftest commented “Rule #1… No one needs an AR15”. I replied by telling her that she spelled abortion wrong.

She wasn’t the first or last commenter to trash the 2nd amendment, but I just couldn’t let that one go. And damn I hope she reads it. These idiots get under my skin sometimes.
April 01, 2026, 01:32 PM
sigfreund
I am curious about how the story got posted on Facebook in the first place. Was it a reference to a news article? Did someone personally involved post it? Other?
(I am ignorant about the site.)




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“I can’t give you brains, but I can give you a diploma.”
— The Wizard of Oz
April 01, 2026, 01:56 PM
TigerDore
I still, for the life of me, cannot figure out how cleaning a gun can make it discharge a bullet. Putting a bullet in the chamber and pulling the trigger* makes it discharge a bullet.

This just seems to be the standard excuse for being careless with a firearm.



*Except for P320s.


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April 01, 2026, 02:03 PM
sigmonkey
Of course it's carelessness.

The "explanation".

Someone proceeds to pick up a firearm to clean it, either believing it is "unloaded" or improperly clearing and ensuring it is actually properly unloaded, then performs one or more careless acts that result in a negligent discharge.

Since the "primary" action/goal was "cleaning the gun", that is the "focus" of the telling. (or the BS excuses of simply improper and unsafe handling of the firearm.




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April 01, 2026, 02:10 PM
sigfreund
There is at least one hugely popular firearm* that requires pulling the trigger before it can be disassembled for proper cleaning. Doing that before ensuring the gun is unloaded is obviously negligence, but it is indeed part of the cleaning process.

* Not an AR, though.

sigmonkey is of course correct.




6.0/94.0

“I can’t give you brains, but I can give you a diploma.”
— The Wizard of Oz
April 01, 2026, 02:41 PM
bigwagon
Rule #1: Never read the comments!
April 01, 2026, 03:02 PM
Zecpull
It still baffles me how many people have neglect discharges cleaning. First step take out mag and clear.. no ammo present ever while cleaning this needs to be done every time.


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April 01, 2026, 03:37 PM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
I still, for the life of me, cannot figure out how cleaning a gun can make it discharge a bullet. Putting a bullet in the chamber and pulling the trigger* makes it discharge a bullet.

This just seems to be the standard excuse for being careless with a firearm.


Whenever I hear about a negligent discharge, I always assume that it was some stupid person breaking the Three Golden Rules of gun safety with a loaded gun indoors. Their story of "honest officer, I was just cleaning it..." is a lame attempt to lie and deflect blame.



"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
April 01, 2026, 04:45 PM
400m
https://www.facebook.com/share...8W4/?mibextid=wwXIfr
That’s the one.