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Illinois new governor signs state licensing bill for gun stores and FFLs

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January 18, 2019, 11:59 AM
grumpy1
Illinois new governor signs state licensing bill for gun stores and FFLs
Our new gun hating governor signed the new Illinois state licensing bill for gun stores and FFLs. This is very disturbing and an obvious attempt to harass and impose extra high costs and penalties in an effort to shut most down. If this law is not challenged in courts I can assure you that it will soon become law in many if not all blue states before very long. There are very few ranges around here already I am concerned concerned those may in jeopardy of closing down also leaving a whole of of us no place to shoot our firearms. The fines in this law are outrageous and for every single instance of violation. Here are the details of the new law.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns....ill/#comment-4177025

The bad news for our gun dealers? This new law still has all manner of onerous provisions:

Up to a $10,000 civil penalty for each and every violation of any provision
Requires mandatory training of employees
Mandatory video surveillance of the entire facility, with the exception of restrooms
Records of the video surveillance shall be maintained for at least 90 days
Requires licensees sign up for an alarm monitoring service
Multiple signage requirements. If one of the required signs fall off the wall or become obscured? $10,000 civil penalty. Make your check out to the Illinois State Police.
Security plans must be submitted to the Illinois State Police and there’s no set standard. In other words, an ISP bureaucrat may deem a submitted plan “inadequate” at any time for an arbitrary reason.
Requirement that licensees make a photocopy of ID for each firearm transfer. Don’t lose that copy, dealers! Each lost ID will cost you $10,000 to the ISP.
Submit to random, unannounced inspections by any law enforcement agency or the Illinois State Police. So the Chicago Anti-gun Enforcement Unit could drop in, unannounced, at a dealer in Cairo, Illinois and go through the records with a fine tooth comb. Any violations, no matter how trivial, will cost the dealer $10,000. Each.
All manner of application and ongoing paperwork requirements. Miss filing the appropriate affidavit for a new employee, break out that checkbook.
Implementation of electronic-based record keeping system by 2020. Better make sure you backup those hard drives! Each record lost will cost you… big bucks.

January 18, 2019, 12:06 PM
kz1000
1 post above yours.


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January 18, 2019, 12:11 PM
grumpy1
quote:
Originally posted by kz1000:
1 post above yours.


Thanks, missed that.
January 18, 2019, 02:12 PM
captain127
New York has a similar law requiring additional license requirements for dealers that sell handguns and this has been in place for decades. Renewal of the handgun dealers license requires submitting new fingerprints with every renewal! And yes the intent is to limit dealers able to legally sell handguns. A small local shop that opened ( before I moved out of that commie state)
Was open and selling long guns for 2 years before his handgun dealers license was finally approved
January 18, 2019, 02:30 PM
LDD
quote:
Originally posted by grumpy1:
quote:
Originally posted by kz1000:
1 post above yours.


Thanks, missed that.


But the title of the other thread is not sufficiently descriptive of its contents, so I'm leaving this one open and locking that one.

Members need to be able to know what they are clicking into, and this title tells you what the thread is about.
January 18, 2019, 03:01 PM
ShneaSIG
At first pass, it looks like this bill basically ends tabletop ffls.

Surely, this bill fixes all that is broken in IL. Great.

So happy I'm out of IL.


-ShneaSIG


Oh, by the way, which one's "Pink?"
January 18, 2019, 03:40 PM
wcb6092
Anything that will close down dealers,make it more cumbersome and expensive to legally purchase a firearm, and do absolutely nothing to reduce crime.

This is what the modern day Democrat party does.


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January 18, 2019, 03:50 PM
roustabout
What's Pritzker worth in monetary terms, around $3.5 billion or so? He certainly won't ever have to worry about defending himself, as I'm sure he has a huge, heavily armed security detail at his beck and call.
January 18, 2019, 03:55 PM
grumpy1
This is also largely payback for Chicago being ordered by the court to allow gun stores in the city. I don't think there any gun stores in Chicago yet and with this I don't think there ever will be. Also Chicago has been blaming half a dozen or so suburban gun stores (Chucks, Midwest, etc) for their gun violence problem for a while now trying to shut them down and this new law would give them the ability to do so by basically harassing them out of business with constant unannounced compliance checks and large fines for any little thing they can find. Of course none of that would have effect on Chicago's huge gang violence problem. The truth is leftist democrats can't stand the thought of law abiding citizens owning firearms.
January 18, 2019, 04:51 PM
beltfed21
My apologies for the confusing title on the first post. I just wanted to remind folks of the fact that two major gun manufacturers' rolled over on the gun owners of Illinois and the law signed by the Governor was the result.

I can't say it any better than it was stated a couple hundred + years ago..... " We either hang together, or most assuredly we will hang separately".


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