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Family of five is evicted as affordable housing crisis worsens in Minneapolis
August 04, 2017, 08:23 AM
Ronin1069Family of five is evicted as affordable housing crisis worsens in Minneapolis
The capitalist in me gets this, the human in me believes there has to be another way....
http://www.startribune.com/a-f...eapolis/438321663/#1Jose Lopez has been caught in the cross hairs of the affordable housing crisis in Minneapolis.
Tuesday afternoon he faced off against a property manager, insisting that his family should not be evicted from an apartment in the Whittier neighborhood where he’s lived for the past 23 years.
“It’s been a hot spot for development,” says Scott Smedberg, who lives near Lopez. “This is ground zero for gentrification.”
Lopez, who has a green card, works at the Crooked Pint downtown, and his wife works at a McDonald’s. They have three children: a daughter, 12, and two sons, ages 16 and 4.
“It’s really so mean and unjust,” Lopez said in Spanish, speaking through an interpreter. “How can someone come in and buy the building and we have to leave in 30 days?”
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August 04, 2017, 08:25 AM
Jim ShugartSo, Jose has been living there for 23 years and he still can't speak English?
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August 04, 2017, 08:30 AM
MRMATTquote:
Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
So, Jose has been living there for 23 years and he still can't speak English?
Yep, first thought that crossed my mind.
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August 04, 2017, 08:32 AM
Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
So, Jose has been living there for 23 years and he still can't speak English?
Or get citizenship. Or find a job that pays better than minimum wage. Or be smart enough to not have three children on those wages. Or...
Sorry, can't help you there Jose. Piss poor planning, and all that.
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August 04, 2017, 08:32 AM
Sig234023 years would have him 75% of the way to ownership of a house.
Nice is overrated
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August 04, 2017, 08:34 AM
vinnybassquote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069:
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Jose Lopez
in the Whittier neighborhood where he’s lived for the past 23 years.
Lopez, who has a green card,
“It’s really so mean and unjust,” Lopez said in Spanish, speaking through an interpreter.
Life is hard. It's harder if you move to another country full of opportunity, & don't improve your lot in life by learning the language and becoming a citizen in twenty-three years.
ETA: I see you all beat me to it.
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BamaJeepsterReading the story it sounds like the only reason he is being 'evicted' is because he is refusing to pay the higher rent. Yeah, it sucks - I had to rent when I was young and starting out - but that's why you buy, so you are not at someone else's mercy. The area is growing, rent is going to go up, that's just a fact of life.
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams August 04, 2017, 08:44 AM
BRLSure it sucks for Jose and his family. But I don't see the need for humanitarian intervention. It's a rental property. If it were a whitey Joe Smith and family that held down jobs and lived in a rental property and the owner decided to raise the rent, sell or anything else nobody would cry.
And yes, 23 years or more and you can't find your way to citizenship? While this is pretty much unrelated to your housing issue it makes me give even less shits about your problem. Maybe you are fine people. If that's the case pull up your boot straps and take care of your family. You're in liberal fucking central, shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Get your fucking citizenship, assimilate, speak English or pack up your shit and shuffle back off to Mexico or wherever it is you came from. But if you get your citizenship then that might shut off the gravy train, huh?
I am not BIPOLAR. I don't even like bears.
August 04, 2017, 08:45 AM
marksman41I don't have any sympathy for Jose for exactly the reasons stated in the posts above.
August 04, 2017, 08:48 AM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
So, Jose has been living there for 23 years and he still can't speak English?
Or get citizenship. Or find a job that pays better than minimum wage. Or be smart enough to not have three children on those wages. Or...
Sorry, can't help you there Jose. Piss poor planning, and all that.
Exactly what I was thinking while reading. Could have done free or low cost adult education for both English and learning a trade.
The article is a bunch of BS feel good stuff (just opposite version). More affluent renters spend more money in community and enrich entire area. What community benefit is there in keeping them there? Same thing is happening in DC and has been for years. You know what the results were? Lower crime, more stores, higher prosperity for all, including the poor.
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Sic Semper Tyrannis August 04, 2017, 09:43 AM
smschulzquote:
The capitalist in me gets this, the human in me believes there has to be another way....
And what way would that be ????
Don't people sell their buildings everyday in America?
It's ALL about the MSN fake news agenda promoting liberalism and the poooooor victim,
c'mon.
August 04, 2017, 09:46 AM
mrmn50quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
23 years would have him 75% of the way to ownership of a house.
Or, 8 years as an owner.
August 04, 2017, 09:48 AM
Hound Dog"Gentrification." A liberal 'dirty word' for economic improvement of a community.
Of course, the libs WANT poor neighborhoods to stay poor. More 'D' voters that way.
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August 04, 2017, 09:54 AM
sigmonkeyNo way, Jose.
Life's hard, get a hemet.
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TigerDorequote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
No way, Jose.
Life's hard, get a hemet.
August 04, 2017, 10:03 AM
TigerDoreI cannot imagine moving to another country and not trying to learn the language; if not out of respect and common sense, then at least to improve my career chances at a better job.
Jose, you aren't being evicted. You are suffering the consequences of behaving stupidly.
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August 04, 2017, 10:07 AM
darthfusterThis is what we get when a society accepts displacement of blame. It is not capitalism's fault. It's his fault. Life moves. It advances. If one remains static, life will pass him. This is what Hose-A did to himself. Had he been more like Hose-B he would have worked to educate himself as well as provide for his family. with that foundation he could have moved when life moved. Unless we learn to accept consequences, we will not make proper corrections and failure awaits.
Now we have a story which some knucklehead will use to support his erroneous belief that socialism is the way to happiness. He will be even more convinced of a lie and as all good socialists do, he'll evangelize and impose. Multiply that times half the population.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier August 04, 2017, 10:13 AM
darthfusterquote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
No way, Jose.
Life's hard, get a hemet.
...preferably one from California....
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier August 04, 2017, 10:20 AM
kz1000Too fucking bad.
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August 04, 2017, 10:36 AM
Icabodquote:
Originally posted by BRL:
Sure it sucks for Jose and his family. But I don't see the need for humanitarian intervention. It's a rental property. If it were a whitey Joe Smith and family that held down jobs and lived in a rental property and the owner decided to raise the rent, sell or anything else nobody would cry.
And yes, 23 years or more and you can't find your way to citizenship? While this is pretty much unrelated to your housing issue it makes me give even less shits about your problem. Maybe you are fine people. If that's the case pull up your boot straps and take care of your family. You're in liberal fucking central, shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Get your fucking citizenship, assimilate, speak English or pack up your shit and shuffle back off to Mexico or wherever it is you came from. But if you get your citizenship then that might shut off the gravy train, huh?
There are free citizenship classes, free adult education, free technical training, churches have programs to help immigrants and more. He's lived in the neighborhood for 23 years and no telling how long he's been in the United States. Come on.
https://mnliteracy.org/educato...classes-in-minnesotahttps://mnliteracy.org/educato...migration-assistancehttp://iimn.org/programs/educa...citizenship-classes/http://abe.mpls.k12.mn.us/citizenship_classes_2http://www.ppl-inc.org/the-hub...on-legal-assistance/
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