With political leadership in our country expected to be more socialistic, is it time to get out of the stock market?
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January 09, 2021, 05:59 PM
doublesharp
and go where?
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January 09, 2021, 06:00 PM
prepsheriff
Nah, just expect to see the stock numbers with a high of 18,000 ( Obama highs ) as opposed to 30,000
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January 09, 2021, 06:05 PM
220-9er
At the very least, I'd diversify. Where is the question. Real estate? another hyper inflated commodity. Metals, roll the dice. Another important consideration is your age. Do you have 5 years or 30 to recover from a less than optimal decision?
The stock market will be fine. They’ve been planning for a Biden victory and the Dems getting both houses for a year now. One truth is that business will find a way to make money, no matter who’s in Washington.
In fact, with a 50-50 split in the Senate, it will be much harder to get any of the more socialist stuff through. All it takes is one holdout. I’m not too worried.
January 09, 2021, 06:09 PM
SIG4EVA
Are you talking about single stocks or mutual funds?
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January 09, 2021, 06:15 PM
lkdr1989
VP will be the tie-breaker, so in reality there is no 50-50 tie in the Senate.
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Originally posted by Dwill104: The stock market will be fine. They’ve been planning for a Biden victory and the Dems getting both houses for a year now. One truth is that business will find a way to make money, no matter who’s in Washington.
In fact, with a 50-50 split in the Senate, it will be much harder to get any of the more socialist stuff through. All it takes is one holdout. I’m not too worried.
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January 09, 2021, 06:17 PM
kimber1911
Last year I started to sell off stocks with a low cost basis. Capital gain tax is likely to increase substantially under a Democrat/Socialist regimen.
This year I will sell off more to pay taxes now rather than under the higher tax rate I expect to see.
I plan on staying heavily invested to keep up with inflation. Having money sitting on the sideline will loose value quickly.
Curious to see how others think. This is a good topic.
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January 09, 2021, 06:23 PM
Dwill104
quote:
Originally posted by lkdr1989: VP will be the tie-breaker, so in reality there is no 50-50 tie in the Senate.
Actually there is. You need all 50 Dems to get to the tie-breaker. If you only get 49 Dems, it doesn’t get to the VP to break the tie because then it’s 49-51.
January 09, 2021, 06:25 PM
Rebel-22
Mutual funds. A lot of my IRA $ is in S&P 500 index fund.
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Originally posted by SIG4EVA: Are you talking about single stocks or mutual funds?
January 09, 2021, 06:34 PM
nhracecraft
I have a rather uneasy feeling about the next eleven days...
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January 09, 2021, 06:36 PM
thumperfbc
Following... I've been loosing sleep over this and wondering if I should be moving some of my retirement funds into less risky funds.
January 09, 2021, 06:37 PM
kimber1911
I’ve had a rather uneasy feeling since before the election.
Started from a 80/20 stock to bond ratio and have been moving toward a 60/40.
Sitting at 6-8 years from retirement.
“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden
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January 09, 2021, 06:37 PM
jljones
quote:
Originally posted by Dwill104:
quote:
Originally posted by lkdr1989: VP will be the tie-breaker, so in reality there is no 50-50 tie in the Senate.
Actually there is. You need all 50 Dems to get to the tie-breaker. If you only get 49 Dems, it doesn’t get to the VP to break the tie because then it’s 49-51.
I think you are wasting your breath. People want gloom and doom. Don’t bring facts into it.
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January 09, 2021, 06:43 PM
kimber1911
I am not as concerned with the financial side of this political change.
More concerned with the infringements to come on individual freedoms and gun control.
Financially I wouldn’t see it necessary to make changes to your current plan. Each year we look at where we are at with a financial adviser, make a plan and stick to it for the year. This has been working good for us.
“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden
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January 09, 2021, 06:43 PM
thumperfbc
quote:
Originally posted by jljones: I think you are wasting your breath. People want gloom and doom. Don’t bring facts into it.
I, for one, am glad for the anti-doom. I get enough of that in my own head that it is nice to seem some encouraging words from those with a more sophisticated understanding than myself.
Carry on!
January 09, 2021, 07:10 PM
mikeyspizza
Transcript of Rush's Jan 7 show, discussing Jim Cramer's Jan. 6 views on how the poor, middle, and upper income will fare. It's not about the stock market. I don't know where Rush got this from. It's not a video of Cramer.
Timing the market is impossible. It is a nice fantasy.
January 09, 2021, 08:33 PM
DaBigBR
quote:
Originally posted by Dwill104:
quote:
Originally posted by lkdr1989: VP will be the tie-breaker, so in reality there is no 50-50 tie in the Senate.
Actually there is. You need all 50 Dems to get to the tie-breaker. If you only get 49 Dems, it doesn’t get to the VP to break the tie because then it’s 49-51.
Those things go both ways. You need one Republican to flip on a vote and it's 51-49 that way.
January 09, 2021, 08:39 PM
Hay2bale
quote:
Originally posted by mikeyspizza: Per Rush, here's Jim Cramer's big picture take on it (for what it's worth), as of Jan 6. I don't know where Rush got this from. This is in Rush's words from his radio show, not a video of Cramer.
I don't put much credibility in Cramer, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
The market has surged since Biden "won".
Just look at who supported Biden. Zuckerberg, Bezos and the other billionaires. Biden is not going to do anything they don't want done. So the S&P stocks will mostly do fine. The face mask lock-downs will continue to destroy small business and increase unemployment. Income inequality will rise hugely, just the way the Dems like it.
Since the election, I have cut back on my stock allocation, to just under 50% from 75% in September. Everything I sold has gone up. But at age 69, the market is looking a little frothy to me. If your time horizon is longer, you might be better off with a higher stock allocation.
Bought a small position in some Gold ETFs since the election, had none before. Did not buy Bit Coin. Or Tesla. Darn it.
The balance is in money market funds which yield nothing, or 1 year CDs at 1%.
I don't like 10 year (or longer) Treasuries, which are around 1% now. If rates increase to 2% next year, you will lose 9% of the bonds' value if you sell them then. The odds of rates going up seem very high, in my opinion.
Biden, Pelosi and Schumer will be printing money and stimulating the economy to beat the band in the first quarter of 2021. Some of the money will end up in the market.
No, it is not time to get out of stocks. Probably...
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