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Will the Second Civil War Turn Violent?

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May 02, 2017, 05:14 PM
JALLEN
Will the Second Civil War Turn Violent?
Townhall.com
Dennis Prager
May 2, 2017

In a recent column, I made the case that Americans are fighting the Second Civil War. The deep chasm that has opened up between the left -- not liberals, the left -- and the rest of the country is so wide and so unbridgeable that there is no other way to describe what is happening. But I noted that at least thus far, unlike the First Civil War, this war is not violent.

Unfortunately, there is now reason to believe that violence is coming. In fact, it's already here. But as of now, it's only coming from one direction.

Left-wing thugs engage in violence and threats of violence with utter impunity. They shut down speakers at colleges; block highways, bridges and airport terminals; take over college buildings and offices; occupy state capitals; and terrorize individuals at their homes.

In order to understand why more violence may be coming, it is essential to understand that left-wing mobs are almost never stopped, arrested or punished. Colleges do nothing to stop them, and civil authorities do nothing to stop them on campuses or anywhere else. Police are reduced to spectators as they watch left-wing gangs loot stores, smash business and car windows, and even take over state capitals (as in Madison, Wisconsin).

It's beginning to dawn on many Americans that mayors, police chiefs and college presidents have no interest in stopping this violence. Left-wing officials sympathize with the lawbreakers, and the police, who rarely sympathize with thugs of any ideology, are ordered to do nothing by emasculated police chiefs.

Consequently, given the abdication by all these authorities of their role to protect the public, some members of the public will inevitably decide that they will protect themselves and others.

This ability of the left to get away with violence is one of the gravest threats to American society in its modern history. Since the Civil War, I can think of only two comparable eruptions of mob violence that authorities allowed. One was when white mobs lynched blacks. The other was the rioting by blacks, such as the Los Angeles riots 25 years ago, and the recent riots in Ferguson, Missouri, and Baltimore, Maryland.

Today, authorities in what we once proudly proclaimed the "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave" are intimidated to the point of paralysis.

And exactly what do they fear? Not violence -- they have made peace with left-wing violence. What they fear is the left-wing media. If the Black Lives Matter movement is forcefully prevented from blocking tens of thousands of cars from entering or leaving San Francisco, the police and local authorities will be labeled racist by black leaders, a smear that will then be echoed by The New York Times and rest of the left-wing media.

Likewise, if a college president requests enough police to come to a college campus so that a Heather Mac Donald, a Charles Murray or an Ann Coulter can deliver a lecture, some of the student-gangsters engaged in violence might be injured -- and that college president will then be pilloried by the mainstream media.


Furthermore, left-wing violence doesn't only succeed where it takes place. It succeeds where nothing happens. The left can now shut down places and events just by threatening violence. This is what happened last week in Portland, Oregon. One leftist called in a threat to the 82nd Avenue of Roses Parade, saying that the Republican Party contingent marching in the parade would be beaten up. The business leaders organizing the parade canceled the whole event for the first time in its 10-year history. If they'd had any reason to believe that the police would have adequately protected the marchers in left-wing Portland, one assumes (hopes?) that they would not have canceled the parade.

An email sent to parade organizers perfectly summed up the left's dominance of America through violence. It said, "You have seen how much power we have downtown and that the police cannot stop us from shutting down roads so please consider your decision wisely."

Meanwhile, the press lies about alleged white supremacists in President Trump's administration and an alleged massive surge in anti-Semitism in order to do what the left has done since Lenin: blame others while it alone organizes violence.

So, here's a prediction: If college presidents, mayors and police chiefs won't stop left-wing mobs, other Americans will. I hope this doesn't happen, because electing conservative Republicans and not donating money to colleges will be more effective. But it is almost inevitable.

Then the left-wing media -- the mainstream media -- will enter hysteria mode with reports that "right-wing fascists" are violently attacking America.

And that's when mayors and college presidents will finally order in the police.

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Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
May 02, 2017, 05:28 PM
chellim1
quote:
So, here's a prediction: If college presidents, mayors and police chiefs won't stop left-wing mobs, other Americans will.

It's only a matter of time.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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May 02, 2017, 05:45 PM
TomS
quote:
So, here's a prediction: If college presidents, mayors and police chiefs won't stop left-wing mobs, other Americans will


Yes sir.


Best regards,

Tom


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May 02, 2017, 05:46 PM
Sig2340
Actually, its will be the third civil war.

Civil War One was 1775-1783, when the colonials rebelled against the British Empire of which they were a part. Colonials 1, Brits O.

Civil War Two was 1861-1865, when the southern states attempted to succeed from the United States and the United States objected. Confederates 0, Unionist 1.

Civil War Three is brewing. It will be leftist, communist/socialist Americans versus the free market, limited government Americans. My life and my treasure go with the true Americans and not the GDCs.





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May 02, 2017, 05:49 PM
chellim1
quote:
the southern states attempted to succeed

They did not succeed when they attempted to secede? Razz



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
May 02, 2017, 05:53 PM
ArtieS
"...we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."

Bring it, fuckers.



"I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation."

Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II.
May 02, 2017, 06:02 PM
ChuckFinley
The next civil war has begun, it's just a cold war at this time.

The war to suppress liberal arrogance.




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May 02, 2017, 06:04 PM
ulsterman
I think liberals have the courage to start a fight. I'm not sure they have the courage to finish it.

Once it turns bloody, I think they will turn tail and run.

As with any enemy, we would have to make a decision whether to finish them or show mercy.
May 02, 2017, 06:20 PM
Mikito
I can imagine some crazy stuff happening if and when Trump is reelected.
May 02, 2017, 06:22 PM
downtownv
Where's the Bikers for Trump aka "a Wall of Meat"


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May 02, 2017, 06:25 PM
12131
It already started, and already is violent. It's only a matter of time before it turns deadly. Really deadly.


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May 02, 2017, 06:27 PM
sigmonkey
^^^

Listen to that man.

He speaks truth.




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May 02, 2017, 06:42 PM
ChuckFinley
^ Primates stick together Big Grin




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May 02, 2017, 06:47 PM
downtownv
quote:
Originally posted by ChuckFinley:
^ Primates stick together Big Grin


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May 02, 2017, 07:01 PM
SpinZone
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
^^^

Listen to that man.

He speaks truth.


What he said.



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May 02, 2017, 07:11 PM
justjoe
quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
Actually, its will be the third civil war.

Civil War One was 1775-1783, when the colonials rebelled against the British Empire of which they were a part. Colonials 1, Brits O.

Civil War Two was 1861-1865, when the southern states attempted to succeed from the United States and the United States objected. Confederates 0, Unionist 1.

Civil War Three is brewing. It will be leftist, communist/socialist Americans versus the free market, limited government Americans. My life and my treasure go with the true Americans and not the GDCs.


Well, I see the history differently. A revolution is breaking free of the rule of an oppressor, overthrowing that oppressor. A civil war is two or more factions fighting for control of the common government.

So the Civil War that began in 1861 was not a civil war. The South did not want control of the government in Washington. They wanted out. Just as the colonists did. Many of them talked about the Second American Revolution, and regarded themselves as patriots, pursuing the original vision of the Founders.

What is brewing now is, in my view, a true civil war, and our first. 12131 is right, it's already violent and the clock is ticking on deadly.

Even Colbert's opening monolog with that disgusting "joke" shows just how bad things have gotten. Just a couple of years ago it would have been inconceivable that a late night host would say about the President of the United States, on air to millions of viewers, something so vile as what he said. It is in itself the kind of thing that does not elicit any kind of a verbalresponse from Trump supporters. It's beyond argument. No words. The only way to answer that is to punch him in the mouth and watch his teeth fly.

I hope it happens. And I hope it is video taped so I can watch it on a loop.

That's where we are right now.

And, yes, it's very very close to the level of hatred and simmering violence of 1861.


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May 02, 2017, 07:11 PM
dewhorse
Hmmm the left has been given a pass for several year, in my opinion mainly due to the attitude of people like us looking at them like whiny kids.

Things have changed.......

And there alot of young people (vets) that have experienced things a lot worst than being pepper sprayed......

Bring it.....
May 02, 2017, 07:17 PM
Deqlyn
Dont be so eager for a civil war, it will be very very ugly, nothing easy about it and dont think for a second that foreign powers wont join sides to try and reap the benefits. I hope it pacifies before the worst happens.



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May 02, 2017, 07:24 PM
justjoe
quote:
Originally posted by Deqlyn:
Dont be so eager for a civil war, it will be very very ugly, nothing easy about it and dont think for a second that foreign powers wont join sides to try and reap the benefits. I hope it pacifies before the worst happens.


You are very right about this.

But I don't see anyone on the right who looks eager for a civil war. The opposite. We have seen a whole lot of violence, all from the left, and unanswered. Find one lefty, commie speaker who has been shouted down or threatened with violence-- on any college campus, or anywhere, for that matter. I don't know of a single one.


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May 02, 2017, 11:31 PM
Rightwire
The libtard snowflakes better hope not.




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