People in California are calling for a 'Calexit' from the US in the wake of Trump's win
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Originally posted by parabellum: Wasn't there a recent survey that says one in three Californians favors seccession? It seems to me if this is accurate, it makes it difficult to blame this idea on just Southern Califirnia residents.
Maybe. Don't one in three live in those 2 cities' metropolitan areas?
flashguy
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February 13, 2017, 02:46 PM
BBMW
There are probably a big bunch of supporters in the Bay area.
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Originally posted by parabellum: Wasn't there a recent survey that says one in three Californians favors seccession? It seems to me if this is accurate, it makes it difficult to blame this idea on just Southern Califirnia residents.
February 13, 2017, 02:57 PM
pbslinger
This entire exercise is just hissy fit pud pounding, but if it did actually happen we could vacation there with a favorable exchange rate with Cali Dollars or Pesos or whatever. I hope no tax dollars are going toward anything to do with this clusterfuck but I'm confident they are.
February 13, 2017, 04:45 PM
PR64
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Originally posted by BBMW: There are probably a big bunch of supporters in the Bay area.
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Originally posted by parabellum: Wasn't there a recent survey that says one in three Californians favors seccession? It seems to me if this is accurate, it makes it difficult to blame this idea on just Southern Califirna residents.
22.5 million of the 37.7 million people in CA live in SoCal according to Wiki
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February 13, 2017, 06:10 PM
BBMW
There are 7 million people in the Bay Area, and it's almost completely homogeneously liberal. There are parts of southern California that are not. Orange County and San Diego, with it's large military population are less uniformly liberal than LA.
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Originally posted by PR64:
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Originally posted by BBMW: There are probably a big bunch of supporters in the Bay area.
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Originally posted by parabellum: Wasn't there a recent survey that says one in three Californians favors seccession? It seems to me if this is accurate, it makes it difficult to blame this idea on just Southern Califirna residents.
22.5 million of the 37.7 million people in CA live in SoCal according to Wiki
February 13, 2017, 06:17 PM
Skins2881
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Originally posted by BBMW: There are 7 million people in the Bay Area, and it's almost completely homogeneously liberal. There are parts of southern California that are not. Orange County and San Diego, with it's large military population are less uniformly liberal than LA.
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Originally posted by PR64:
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Originally posted by BBMW: There are probably a big bunch of supporters in the Bay area.
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Originally posted by parabellum: Wasn't there a recent survey that says one in three Californians favors seccession? It seems to me if this is accurate, it makes it difficult to blame this idea on just Southern Califirna residents.
22.5 million of the 37.7 million people in CA live in SoCal according to Wiki
Move the navel bases north, extend the boarder wall to wall in SoCal to Mexico, cede the southern portion to Mexico in exchange for building the wall.
Several problems wrapped up in very few steps.
Jesse
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February 13, 2017, 07:33 PM
PR64
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Originally posted by BBMW: There are 7 million people in the Bay Area, and it's almost completely homogeneously liberal. There are parts of southern California that are not. Orange County and San Diego, with it's large military population are less uniformly liberal than LA.
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Originally posted by PR64:
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Originally posted by BBMW: There are probably a big bunch of supporters in the Bay area.
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Originally posted by parabellum: Wasn't there a recent survey that says one in three Californians favors seccession? It seems to me if this is accurate, it makes it difficult to blame this idea on just Southern Califirna residents.
22.5 million of the 37.7 million people in CA live in SoCal according to Wiki
I agree with you that the Bay Area is liberal...I know it's liberal, I live here in the East Bay.
I was just pointing out that Nor Cal, not counting the Bay Area is out numbered big time.
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March 08, 2017, 01:36 PM
chellim1
"Senior national security leaders have stated that the U.S. needs to work off the assumption that North Korea will have ICBM capabilities soon, capable of reaching Hawaii.... http://freebeacon.com/national...aunch-attack-hawaii/
If we could help them reach California...
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March 08, 2017, 01:39 PM
braillediver
It's funny and we should encourage it.
How about Social Security? Is everyone in Ca going to write it off?
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March 08, 2017, 02:22 PM
darthfuster
Let em do it. Sweep in and take it back. Launch the sessionists into Mexico from Arizona because in taking Ca. back we went too far and conquered Baja.
Mexicos GDP is around 1.3 trillion, CA GDP is about 2.45 trillion, US GDP is about 17 trillion
Taking CA out of the US would put the EU as the largest GDP in the world and maybe setup the Euro to be the worldwide monetary standard replacing the dollar.
IF CA was a country it would be the 6th largest GDP in the world and if you broke out the EU from it's conglomeration of other nations CA would be 5th and almost as big as the UK itself.
You'd more than double the value of Mexico if CA was given to them, peso would go up some depending on CA accepting it as currency.
March 08, 2017, 02:32 PM
exx1976
So did they do it yet?
March 08, 2017, 02:39 PM
chellim1
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You'd more than double the value of Mexico if CA was given to them...
That brings us to an important point: California has been invaded. Mexico is slowly taking over California by illegal invaders entering our country. Sure, many in California are willing participants and accepting and even welcoming the invasion. But... about half the land in California is owned by the federal government. We don't want to give California to Mexico... we want to repel the invasion!
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
March 08, 2017, 02:44 PM
smithnsig
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Originally posted by HRK: All numbers in 2015 values
Mexicos GDP is around 1.3 trillion, CA GDP is about 2.45 trillion, US GDP is about 17 trillion
Taking CA out of the US would put the EU as the largest GDP in the world and maybe setup the Euro to be the worldwide monetary standard replacing the dollar.
IF CA was a country it would be the 6th largest GDP in the world and if you broke out the EU from it's conglomeration of other nations CA would be 5th and almost as big as the UK itself.
You'd more than double the value of Mexico if CA was given to them, peso would go up some depending on CA accepting it as currency.
How much industry would leave Cali if they left?
A lot of big talk but their would be an exodus of people and business out of Cali. How much? who knows, but it would absolutely change.
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March 08, 2017, 03:07 PM
HRK
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Originally posted by smithnsig:
How much industry would leave Cali if they left?
A lot of big talk but their would be an exodus of people and business out of Cali. How much? who knows, but it would absolutely change.
That is a key question, how much revenue would they lose, or would they by being put into Mexico, I'm not sure the big money will leave, small businesses perhaps, and CA legislators would play hell with Mexico trying to get all their left wing environmental policies in effect in Mexico.
March 08, 2017, 03:12 PM
RHINOWSO
Don't forget the entire US military pulling out of CA. They'd have their National Guard / Air National guard, but that's it.
March 08, 2017, 03:56 PM
Icabod
Washington DC is perpetually angling to be the 51st state. Their problem is that D.C. Was created so no state got the Capital. Those wanting statehood have come up with the idea of having sections remain under federal control. Here's a map https://statehood.dc.gov/sites...of-Washington-DC.pdf
This no doubt would work with California. All the military, National Forests, National Parks and government property stay with the nation and are tax exempt from California's taxes.
The Calexit morals are dreaming the urban areas will pull the rest of the state. It's about time there's some push back.
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March 08, 2017, 04:54 PM
Rightwire
Well.... We're waiting....
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March 08, 2017, 06:08 PM
Graniteguy
What the hell is taking so long? Damn.
March 08, 2017, 06:10 PM
slosig
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Originally posted by smithnsig: How much industry would leave Cali if they left?
A lot of big talk but their would be an exodus of people and business out of Cali. How much? who knows, but it would absolutely change.
A lot of industry and a lot of industrious people are leaving CA now. Many head to Texas or other parts of Free America to escape this communist hellhole. I can only assume that the rate if departure will increase is CA attempts to secede.