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People in California are calling for a 'Calexit' from the US in the wake of Trump's win

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January 28, 2017, 03:18 PM
nhtagmember
People in California are calling for a 'Calexit' from the US in the wake of Trump's win
wait....Peter Seller is the dead Jerry Brown?



[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC


January 28, 2017, 03:40 PM
snoris
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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
wait....Peter Seller is the dead Jerry Brown?


I probably should have said "brain-dead Jerry Brown."

My mistake.
January 28, 2017, 07:38 PM
synthplayer
If Washington, Oregon and California seceded, would they call themselves the Western United Socialist States?



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January 28, 2017, 07:49 PM
Crom
He last time a Republican President with such low approval ratings was elected all the Democratic States seceded.

We all know how well that worked out for the Dems. Wink


"Crom is strong! If I die, I have to go before him, and he will ask me, 'What is the riddle of steel?' If I don't know it, he will cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me."
January 28, 2017, 08:05 PM
darthfuster
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Originally posted by synthplayer:
If Washington, Oregon and California seceded, would they call themselves the Western United Socialist States?


lol I see it.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 28, 2017, 09:27 PM
JordanR
Just give that damn state to mexico in trade for building a full border wall, including walling off the liberal infested shithole from OUR border states.

Seems like an even trade to me



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January 29, 2017, 10:16 AM
Fly-Sig
The Patriot Nurse hits a home run with her blog this morning. I think she's right on numerous points, including California being a lost cause at this point.

The Patriot Nurse "City-States & Coast vs True America"

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Ever know someone who went through a nasty divorce? Cheating, screaming, fighting, breaking glass, custody battles, attorneys, family court—the whole bit are all too regular a spectacle in our nation today. Here’s the point of this article: We ARE that couple in the middle of a bitter divorce, and the suit would read “City-state and Coasts vs. The REST of America.”
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We ARE that sick marriage comprised of one person who keeps trying to compromise (Conservatives), keeps pleading for counseling, keeps desperately hoping against hope that the other person will cease acting like a drug-crazed lunatic and come home for dinner the way they used to when we were younger and happy.

I’m going to pull out the old psych-nursing tough love move. It’s time for me to sit you down, take your hand, look you in the eye, America, and tell you, “You are in an abusive relationship. There’s no point in trying to reconcile with an abuser. It’s time to get your fists up. “City-State and Coasts” is hurting you. They are taking the joy out of your life. If you don’t want to end up dead in a ditch, freshly infected with herpes and 4 kids deep into the equation with a person who not only doesn’t love you, but in point of fact disrespects, despises and is destroying your life, you better get out now.”

Who is this abusive spouse? The City-State (New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Washington, D.C) and the Coast (California is the biggie). Within their borders dwell millions of little statists and party minions who care NOTHING for your marriage contract (the Constitution). Yes, there are ‘good people’ here, but they are outnumbered, outmaneuvered and cowed by threats of social ostracism. The Leftists, whose idea of a free society is mandatory, compulsory laws enforced at the barrel of a government agency’s gun, live in these cities and coasts and have all but destroyed this nation. They have hit us (often literally), taken away our basic freedoms, abused us, rioted, destroyed property, caused bodily harm and rampant disrespect for law and order. Albeit, the rest of America is no unblemished virgin, devoid of the stain of Marxist supporters, but these rural lefties are numerically and functionally insignificant
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I have news for you friend, the Donald did not cause this. THEY did. For 8 years, their Black Jesus, Messianic Savior, and favorite Constitutional Rapist named Barack Hussein Obama, along with his Justice Department systematically attacked EVERYTHING good and wholesome about this nation and her people. ... Under his presidency, the nation has gone from being on speaking terms to regularly throwing punches.
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It truly is time for a divorce citing irreconcilable differences if we want to avoid violence.

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The city libtards voted to expand government into every possible area of YOUR LIFE and tax the living piss out of you. These people are NOT your friends. They are countrymen in name only and wanton, violent THIEVES in deed. Their abuse and destruction of law and order have known no bounds of the past 8 years -- and we, the abused spouse, have had our fill -- hence the election results.

They are going to continue to abuse and hit us until we hit them back AND either throw them out or THEY leave.

Somehow, through the cannabis haze, California has had the wisdom to begin the process of secession.

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I get that there are good people in California (heck, I’ve TRAINED them!) who likely won’t like this, but I’m gonna give you a hard truth my friends: The rest of us are TIRED of dealing with your state. Be honest with yourself, you’re not going to ‘take it back.’ Your legislature is corrupt and failed, and you have allowed yourselves to be disarmed to the point where resistance will be all but impossible. You have acquiesced to neutering your guns, you have acquiesced to having your rights to purchase ammunition so heavily restricted that nothing short of a Supreme Court verdict and Federal enforcement will reinstate them. California conservatives have spent the greater part of this century and prior compromising, acquiescing, and following unrighteous laws that were foisted upon you. Let’s be real about your addiction to compliance. You haven’t picked up arms and fought back while you have been systematically stripped of your right to self-defense, and you’re not going to learn that discipline after neglecting it for so long. You really don’t know what it’s like to run around with a 30 round magazine, no bullet button and a pistol-grip, let alone all the ammo you can purchase to your heart’s content. California does not have a martial culture as a state, and it sure isn’t going to learn a new tune this late in the parade. Reid and I have done more to advocate for California gun rights than most California gun owners—and that’s the sad truth. You’re not going to “resist”, and until you make your representatives more terrified of coming to work than passing more rights violations, you will continue to hold your willing arms out to be bound by the chains of enslavement.

All this aside, California has the right idea about secession, and I wish New York (sorry Upstaters, you’re in the same boat as NorCal) would follow suit. Secession is a better option than a full blown civil war, which is exactly where the Left is pushing us. This is not hyperbole. This is the cycle of history, of which I’m convinced most modern Americans are functionally if not literally illiterate. If California, and other bastions of Leftist dogma want to live in a socialist utopia, LET THEM…but let them do it with THEIR money. This is one Tennessean who is tired of compromising on fundamentals. In the words of Tevye in Fiddler on the Roof,” NO! There IS no other hand!”

January 29, 2017, 11:20 AM
Il Cattivo
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Secession is a better option than a full blown civil war, which is exactly where the Left is pushing us.

Again, given the logic of her argument, why would we give them anything? Invade, flatten the State Capitol while the legislature is in session, arm anyone from east of Sacramento who wants a rifle, and then run whatever kind of transitionary program we think makes sense until California can be a state again - in two or three generations.
January 29, 2017, 12:19 PM
chellim1
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Who is this abusive spouse? The City-State (New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Washington, D.C) and the Coast (California is the biggie). Within their borders dwell millions of little statists and party minions who care NOTHING for your marriage contract (the Constitution). Yes, there are ‘good people’ here, but they are outnumbered, outmaneuvered and cowed by threats of social ostracism. The Leftists, whose idea of a free society is mandatory, compulsory laws enforced at the barrel of a government agency’s gun, live in these cities and coasts and have all but destroyed this nation.
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All this aside, California has the right idea about secession, and I wish New York (sorry Upstaters, you’re in the same boat as NorCal) would follow suit. Secession is a better option than a full blown civil war, which is exactly where the Left is pushing us.


We must ask ourselves what has caused this problem, largely concentrated in the City-State (New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Washington, D.C)and the Coast (California is the biggie)?

My answer would be two things:
1. Massive, unvetted, unassimilated immigration.
2. Welfare dependency.

These two areas are largely within the control of the US Congress. Perhaps before we get to the point of secession we should ask the newly elected Republican Congress to get busy rolling back the 1965 Immigration Act and the Great Society, both enacted by a Democrat Congress and signed into law by President Lyndon Johnson.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
January 29, 2017, 12:25 PM
Il Cattivo
In my opinion you've left out "rich people who are so rich that they think they've left reality behind - but are still scared of poor people".
January 29, 2017, 12:34 PM
MitchbSC
You also left out that flyover country has been depopulated and stripped of working capital because we as a nation no longer make anything. Jobs have become service-based and concentrated in the large metro areas.




They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
January 29, 2017, 12:41 PM
Icabod
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Secession is a better option than a full blown civil war, which is exactly where the Left is pushing us.


Look at the last time succession was tried. State legislatures voted for their state to succeed
When succession was put to a popular vote, it failed.

West Virginia seceded from Virginia and was admitted as its own state.

Odds are th big cities would vote to leave. This would be matched by most of California voting to stay with the US. Which would lead to most of California staying a state and the cesspools of liberals becoming isolated in small coastal enclaves.



“ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull.
January 29, 2017, 12:53 PM
chellim1
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Originally posted by Icabod:
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Secession is a better option than a full blown civil war, which is exactly where the Left is pushing us.


Look at the last time succession was tried. State legislatures voted for their state to succeed
When succession was put to a popular vote, it failed.

West Virginia seceded from Virginia and was admitted as its own state.

Odds are the big cities would vote to leave. This would be matched by most of California voting to stay with the US. Which would lead to most of California staying a state and the cesspools of liberals becoming isolated in small coastal enclaves.

Which begs the question: "How do you get rid of these cesspools of liberals?... or at least marginalize them to the point that they don't control entire States like California, New York and Illinois?"



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
January 29, 2017, 01:19 PM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
quote:
Originally posted by Icabod:
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quote:
Secession is a better option than a full blown civil war, which is exactly where the Left is pushing us.


Look at the last time succession was tried. State legislatures voted for their state to succeed
When succession was put to a popular vote, it failed.

West Virginia seceded from Virginia and was admitted as its own state.

Odds are the big cities would vote to leave. This would be matched by most of California voting to stay with the US. Which would lead to most of California staying a state and the cesspools of liberals becoming isolated in small coastal enclaves.

Which begs the question: "How do you get rid of these cesspools of liberals?... or at least marginalize them to the point that they don't control entire States like California, New York and Illinois?"


Give them enough time and they will marginalize themselves. This is how I stole a girl from her boyfriend once. All I did was show interest and behave myself. He went all ninja and lost her. Big Grin



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 29, 2017, 01:55 PM
Fly-Sig
Splitting California into 2 states is one answer, and is supported by a lot of the people there. That would dilute their Electoral College impact, too.
January 29, 2017, 02:00 PM
chellim1
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Splitting California into 2 states is one answer, and is supported by a lot of the people there.

North and South California? Coastal and Inland California? Where do you draw the line?
Really it's San Francisco and LA that are the biggest problem. Same with Chicago and New York city.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
January 29, 2017, 02:03 PM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
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Splitting California into 2 states is one answer, and is supported by a lot of the people there.

North and South California? Coastal and Inland California? Where do you draw the line?
Really it's San Francisco and LA that are the biggest problem. Same with Chicago and New York city.


Maybe we could call in a targeted comet strike.... Big Grin



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 29, 2017, 02:52 PM
nhtagmember
quote:
Originally posted by synthplayer:
If Washington, Oregon and California seceded, would they call themselves the Western United Socialist States?


giggle snort



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January 29, 2017, 07:30 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
quote:
Originally posted by synthplayer:
If Washington, Oregon and California seceded, would they call themselves the Western United Socialist States?


giggle snort
Yeah, it's funny. But if it happened the USA would no longer have any ports on the western side of the country.

flashguy




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January 29, 2017, 11:55 PM
radioman
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Originally posted by flashguy:
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
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Originally posted by synthplayer:
If Washington, Oregon and California seceded, would they call themselves the Western United Socialist States?


giggle snort
Yeah, it's funny. But if it happened the USA would no longer have any ports on the western side of the country.

flashguy


Or Navy bases, although the Navy has other bases in/near the Pacific.


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