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https://www.texastribune.org/2...as-attorney-general/

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...y-general-ken-paxton

Buddy of mine in a Signal group posted this:

He called for the Speaker of the House (TX) to resign based on his incoherent speech during a house vote. Y’all need to listen to him talk and see if you can recognize ANYTHING he said. He was severely impaired from something. Then of course from his office - “no comment”. So for that criticism they’re trying to impeach Paxton.



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Help me where can I find his incohorent speech. I just get walls of text. Thanks
 
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So for that criticism they’re trying to impeach Paxton.[/b][/i]

The article I read yesterday suggested it was for far worse than just some criticism.


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Help me where can I find his incohorent speech. I just get walls of text. Thanks

If you just start typing TX Speaker, Google auto-fills the word Drunk, and you find this...



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Found it. He needs a substance abuse evaluation. Impeachment can then follow if needed.Three days in a treatment center will provide the answer. Perhaps he had a minor stroke, although that is less likely than not.
 
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Part of the impeachment is over a 2015 indictment over 2011 stock purchases he made which is ~4 years prior to taking office as Attorney General. Near as I can tell, change of venue hearing and appeals to change of venue are all that have occurred so far.

My Country Judge actually knows Paxton and posted this today on Facebook. Highlighting by me:
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Later today the Texas House of Representatives is expected to take up Articles of Impeachment against Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton. As a former State Representative and now as County Judge, I have serious concerns about this attempt to undermine the will of the citizens of this great state. This is nothing more than an attempt to thwart the duly elected Attorney General who has seen success after success in federal court against the overreaching federal government under Presidents Obama and Biden.

General Paxton is a true friend who has helped me tremendously throughout my tenure as a public servant. While in the House, I could count on Ken to answer any call regarding pending legislation that I may have had questions on. More recently as County Judge, Ken advised me on the legalities of all the crazy COVID restrictions undertaken in Texas and was instrumental in my decisions to keep Montgomery County open by providing me the legal foundation to help me make the best decisions, because of which we are stronger than ever for it!

But despite our friendship, my resolve to take a stand today is due to the lack of legal grounds the legislature has on the proceedings it is about to undertake. Only a few legislators at this point have been allowed to be involved in the ethics committee’s process and despite Texas Government Code allowing the full house to compel testimony, only hired guns who once served in the bowels of the Harris County Justice System were allowed to investigate and ask the questions leading to articles of impeachment.

Texas law is pretty clear on the surface of a layman’s reading. No officer of this state may be impeached from office for an act the officer may have committed before the officer's election to office. Attorney General Ken Paxton was overwhelmingly elected to the office of Attorney General in November of 2022 and was sworn in earlier this year. In Montgomery County alone, he received over 73% of the vote. The Articles of Impeachment drafted by the General Ethics Committee in the Texas House conveniently withhold the alleged dates to which the alleged offenses occurred.

So as a former member of the Texas House, I do not believe the full House membership has had the ability to review evidence, witness statements, or anything to substantiate these Articles of Impeachment. I am a staunch proponent of due process and it’s very clearly lacking in this case. For these reasons I would boldly vote NO on the question of Impeachment and get back to work passing a balance budget, property tax reforms and so many other conservative pieces of legislation about to die by the clock.

The DC swamp is proudly supporting the efforts to impeach and that is all we really need to know about what will take place later today. I pray the Texas House quickly resolves this mistake, overwhelming rejects this farce and votes NO, respecting the will of the voters and quickly getting back to the real business before it. The clock is ticking and Texans deserve the victories in Austin we elected our members to achieve and this is NOT one of them.



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Thanks for that post, tatortodd. Oh I'm sure BEYOND the shadow of a doubt that there's some shady shit going on here. And I don't think that shady shit is coming from AG Paxton's side. Just sayin'...



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I'm confused. The House Speaker was drunk on the job and they impeached the AG?

What am I missing here?
 
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The guy in the video while impaired is NOT the Texas AG. That’s Dade Phalen.

They were impeaching Ken Paxton. Outside of the actual rules per the Texas legislature rules. And after the FBI investigated him several years ago and declined to prosecute (even though he’s a Republican) because there was not a crime.



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So as a former member of the Texas House, I do not believe the full House membership has had the ability to review evidence, witness statements, or anything to substantiate these Articles of Impeachment. I am a staunch proponent of due process and it’s very clearly lacking in this case. For these reasons I would boldly vote NO on the question of Impeachment and get back to work passing a balance budget, property tax reforms and so many other conservative pieces of legislation about to die by the clock.

I find it interesting that as per Ballotpedia the Texas House currently has 86 Republicans and 64 non-Republicans. Fox News reported the vote to impeach was 121-23. Apparently there are a lot of Republicans who thought there was enough evidence to vote for an impeachment. Either that or Mr. Paxton has made a lot of enemies on both sides of the aisle. I have been a casual observer of Texas politics for a long time, and this situation really has my interest.




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When a Republican gets impeached by the establishment, my first thought is that they have been over the target and are rattling the right cages.
 
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Interestingly, it was AG Paxton who in conjunction with GOA filed suit against Joe Biden re: the ATF stabilizing brace rule.
 
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Fox News reported the vote to impeach was 121-23. Apparently there are a lot of Republicans who thought there was enough evidence to vote for an impeachment.
I've read a bunch of articles and only one actually talked about the committee or the house being presented evidence. It was the 2nd article the OP posted, you'll see that the committee voted to impeach Thursday after only a 3 hour presentation from investigators (i.e. one sided).

I can't find the article, but one Republican even said yesterday's vote wasn't about innocence or guilt, it was about process. Eek



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Many here are wondering how this has advanced in the R controlled Texas house, and there have been other conservative initiatives which Texas has not acted on.

I still have questions for those in the know. Who or what is leading to this harassment of Ken Paxton?? What if anything do these issues have in common?


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This AP article published this morning goes into the various issues driving the impeachment.




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I still have questions for those in the know. Who or what is leading to this harassment of Ken Paxton??


From what I read and see, it is the moderate wing of the Republican Party (partnered with the Democrats) in Texas that is behind this, a number of folks reporting this as an "intraparty" feud, since the House has long been criticized as being "moderate" in tone. According to Texas GOP Chair Matt Rinaldi, he considers the impeachment proceedings a battle to to stop the conservative direction of the state.

It is telling that Dade Phelan, a staunch anti- Trump Republican, is instrumental in these proceedings against Paxton, a loyal Trump supporter, who is not only one of the most conservative A.G.s in the country, but the tip of the spear as far as state A.G.s fighting voter fraud. It is also telling that Ted Cruz supports Paxton, while John Cornyn doesn't.

Is Paxton guilty of wrongdoing after accusations, investigations, indictment, impeachment? I don't know. But these political actions against him do sound familiar. And this opinion piece written by an election expert seems to point to a motivation for the attack on Paxton right now in mid-2023.



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According to Texas GOP Chair Matt Rinaldi, he considers the impeachment proceedings a battle to to stop the conservative direction of the state.

It is telling that Dade Phelan, a staunch anti- Trump Republican, is instrumental in these proceedings against Paxton, a loyal Trump supporter, who is not only one of the most conservative A.G.s in the country, but the tip of the spear as far as state A.G.s fighting voter fraud.

I think you're right...

More from Jeff Childers today:

One popular theory is that RINO House Republicans initiated the impeachment to stop Paxton from calling out election fraud and complaining about the 2020 elections. In late April, about a month prior to his impeachment, Paxton gave a Heritage Foundation talk explaining how he tried to help President Trump prevent losing Texas, and really the country, because of mail-in balloting.

Listen for yourself. Paxton explained how mail-in balloting allows cheating, his strategy to fight it, and called out the Soros prosecutors in Texas who refuse to prosecute voting fraud (10 min), and some people think that’s what got him in trouble:

https://twitter.com/merissahan.../1663727925789589504

Maybe. It’s true that Paxton has been under legal attack ever since he officially became an “election denier” after the 2020 election disaster. He’s allegedly being investigated by the FBI for the last two years for bribery, for example, for allegedly issuing some favorable rulings that helped a real estate developer named Nate Paul.

But there is no evidence that Nate Paul paid any money to AG Paxton. Paxton has denied all allegations of wrongdoing, and I could find no proof that he accepted any bribes from Paul. So it looks like the typical politically-motivated, two-tiered-justice-system nonsense that we are getting so very used to these days.

It’s not clear to me Paxton is being impeached for his elections comments. Why would House Republicans try to sabotage election reform? I get the “uniparty” theory, but the uniparty phenomenon seems least likely to show up in the State House of Representatives, where officeholders have to run again every two years and where they turn over the fastest. (Not all of them. Texas lacks term limits for House Representatives. Senfronia Thompson (D-141) has served 25 consecutive terms, for example. By contrast, Florida’s House reps are term-limited to only 8 years, or 4 two-year terms).

Instead, there’s another curious possibility: a grudge. Dade Phelan, Speaker of the Texas House, made the news a few weeks ago for appearing on the House floor, drunk as a Texas skunk, badly slurring his words, with everyone acting like it was normal. Maybe it is normal.

Anyway, loads of embarrassing “drunken Phelan” videos made the rounds last week. Here’s one example:

https://twitter.com/JakeBequet.../1661475651592007680

But last week on May 23rd, Attorney General Paxton sent an official letter calling for Phelan’s investigation, which was political dynamite, quite like the first artillery round launched by the troops at the Alamo.

https://twitter.com/Misty_G_17.../1661109472608002073

On May 24th — one day after Paxton’s letter, and all in a single day — the Texas House of Representatives filed and then immediately voted to impeach Paxton on 20 articles of impeachment, alleging bribery, abuse of office, and obstruction of justice. This week the House managers are supervising Paxton’s impeachment trial in the Texas Senate, which began yesterday and is expected to last several weeks.

If Paxton is convicted by the Senate, he will be permanently removed from office.

The timing of the two events — Paxton’s letter and Phelan leading the impeachment effort — are too close together to ignore. It looks like Phelan started Paxton’s turbo impeachment in retaliation for Paxton asking for an ethics investigation. It is also possible that Paxton got word of a planned impeachment effort and struck first. Who knows.

Six of Paxton’s AG office staff have taken personal leaves of absence to help defend him. Meanwhile, under Texas law, Brent Webster took over for Paxton as interim Attorney General while Paxton is on involuntary leave pending the Senate trial’s outcome. According to the Houston Chronicle, Governor Abbott, a former AG himself, has been silent on the impeachment.

Paxton is the first statewide official to have been impeached in Texas since 1917. If he’s removed as Attorney General, it will be a historic first.

The bottom line is, the reason why the Republican Legislature in Texas is firing HIMARS at its own Attorney General is as clear as the mud constantly bogging down the heroes in Larry McMurtry’s Lonesome Dove series. It remains to be seen whether AG Paxton will effect a last-minute escape in the Senate from House Republicans that appear more hostile than wild Comanches, or whether they’ll claim his scalp.

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Many here are wondering how this has advanced in the R controlled Texas house, and there have been other conservative initiatives which Texas has not acted on.


The Texas House while it enjoys a Republican majority also has for the past several sessions also been notoriously friendly and kind to the Dem minority. Phelan and his predecessors have even appointed Dem house committee leaders to signal their olive branch to lead. On the Senate Side Lt. Gov Dan Patrick has lead a much stronger Rep led path.
The TX House leadership has tried to thread the needle by offering Dem's some power and it inevitably bites them as Dems must do what Dems do instinctively, block bed rock conservative legislation. Phelan and the folks who owe their Committee chairmanships are trying to protect Phelan.
AG Paxton is a Conservative and is working to push the ball down field, so he must be stopped. They are taking a page from the Trump presidency, always attack the conservative with lawsuits.
 
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Texas Senate met today to discuss rules for Paxton's impeachment trial. I think it says a lot that 6 employees took a leave of absence to be on his defense team.
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Texas Senate debating rules for Attorney General Ken Paxton’s impeachment trial
Story by Lauren McGaughy, The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN, Texas — The Texas Senate on Tuesday is meeting to discuss rules for state Attorney General Ken Paxton’s historic impeachment trial.

Proposed trial rules were distributed to senators in the morning, after which they spent several hours voting on property tax provisions and holding a news conference lauding the passage of that legislation. At 1:30 p.m, the Senate convened a meeting closed to the public without explicitly stating it was debating the proposed rules for impeachment proceedings.

Several senators did not respond to questions about whether they are currently considering the rules. The Senate was to gavel back in for a public meeting at 6 p.m.

The rules have not been released publicly.

They will set the tone for the trial, in which senators will determine whether Paxton is removed from office after being accused of widespread wrongdoing over several years. The GOP-led Texas House impeached Paxton on May 27; he is suspended from his official duties pending the trial’s outcome.

One of the most highly watched outcomes will be if state Sen. Angela Paxton, the attorney general’s wife, can participate in the proceedings. She remained silent on calls for her to recuse herself until Monday evening, when she issued a statement saying she will “carry out my duties” without explicitly saying whether she’ll vote on her husband’s removal.

The Senate will also likely vote on whether to have live witnesses or depositions; to allow cameras in the chamber; and to follow civil or criminal trial rules. Approval of two-thirds of senators is needed to remove Paxton from his post as attorney general.

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who as Senate president will preside over the trial, said Monday that the rules would be released this week. He called them “complex” and promised “full transparency.”

“We have to write rules for the trial. There’s some precedent, some law, but it’s 100 years old. So we’ll have to map this out,” Patrick told conservative radio host Mark Davis. He also said that while Paxton’s lawyers have asked for the impeachment to be disposed of quickly, legally the Senate must take up the issue.

“We are required in the (Texas) Constitution to have a trial,” Patrick said.

A statewide official in Texas has not been impeached for more than 100 years; the last impeachment proceedings in the Senate took place in 1975.

Paxton has denied wrongdoing and accused fellow Republicans of targeting him for his conservative policies and thwart the will of voters, who reelected him last year. On Monday, he sent out a fundraising call in which he called the impeachment proceedings a “kangaroo court” meant to “eliminate America’s most conservative Attorney General.”

The 20 articles of impeachment against Paxton include unfitness for office, dereliction of duty and misappropriation of public resources. He is also accused of lying on his financial disclosures, and for obstructing justice by delaying state criminal trials on securities fraud charges he’s faced for eight years.

At the core of many of the most serious articles of impeachment are allegations that Paxton misused his power to help real estate developer and campaign donor Nate Paul, who was charged with federal financial crimes earlier this month.

The Paul accusations first surfaced more than two years ago, when several of Paxton’s top employees reported him to the FBI for alleged bribery and abuse of office. The employees eventually filed a whistleblower lawsuit, saying the attorney general did favors for Paul at this agency in exchange for help remodeling his Austin home and a job for a woman with whom Paxton was allegedly having an affair.

The House launched an investigation into Paxton earlier this year, which ultimately resulted in his impeachment, when his agency asked for $3.3 million in state money to settle the whistleblower lawsuit. The investigation is ongoing and subpoenas were issued last month to entities that touch on both Ken and Angela Paxton’s personal and campaign finances.

The trial will have its own price tag. The House impeachment managers hired two high-powered lawyers to present the case for Paxton’s removal from office, both of whom will make $500 an hour, and other associated costs include senators’ per diem.

Paxton brought on two private attorneys, and his agency waived its own ethics rules so that six people could take leave to defend him .

Last week, the attorney general’s separate securities fraud cases were revived after being long stalled when the state’s top appeals court set Houston as the future trial venue. Depending on the timing of the Senate proceedings, this decision means Paxton may be facing a jury of his peers in the fraud trials just as he is also fighting removal from office.



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Texas senate deciding Paxton's fate right now

if you have some time, check out some of the videos here:

https://hotair.com/tree-huggin...s-are-tigers-n578355

Looks like this may be the Bush family seeking revenge for Paxton defeating George P Bush in the REP primary



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