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32.5 Trillion in debt: Energy Dept. to Spend $1.2 Billion to Try to Vacuum CO2 from Sky

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September 04, 2023, 11:54 AM
wcb6092
32.5 Trillion in debt: Energy Dept. to Spend $1.2 Billion to Try to Vacuum CO2 from Sky
https://www.realclearinvestiga...from_sky_976955.html

The Department of Energy is spending $1.2 billion on experimental technology that tries to vacuum greenhouse gasses out of the sky, despite many scientists’ concerns over its efficacy and potential, according to The New York Times.

In announcing the funding, U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm described two large projects that would use a nascent technology known as direct air capture to vacuum carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

There are 30 such facilities around the world but these two in Texas and Louisiana would be the largest.

The recipients of the funding are Occidental Petroleum, an oil company in Kleberg County, Texas, and Battelle, a non-profit in Calcasieu, Louisiana. Both are equally splitting the cost of building the facilities with the federal government.

The Biden administration is touting this massive investment as another part of its fight against climate change. Some scientists, however, remain skeptical of the technology’s potential. Both George W. Bush and Barack Obama tried funding this technology with investments of $1 billion, only for the project to be shut down because it couldn’t be used on a commercial scale.

Even climate activists like former Vice President Al Gore have criticized this technology, noting that it is incredibly expensive and uses “so much energy that it would make more sense to prevent carbon emissions in the first place rather than try to clean them up after the fact,” The Times reported.

Unfortunately, more funding for this highly experimental technology may be on the way. The 2021 Bipartisan Infrastructure Act set aside $3.5 billion for constructing four plants like these, meaning there will soon be another expenditure of about $2.3 billion on two more facilities.

This is only a small part of the $370 billion the Biden administration has spent to fight climate change, though The Times argues all this funding will still not be enough to reach the goal of halving greenhouse gas emissions by 2030.

While some may reasonably argue the government has a role to play in the fight against climate change, shoveling billions out the door on untested technology only to still fall short of meaningful change is wasteful and irresponsible.


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September 04, 2023, 01:50 PM
Aglifter
Or, you know, they could pay farmers to implement some regenerative ag techniques, and deal with the 4-5 years of reduced yield to increase organic matter in the soil, and get permanent improvement in the soils as a result…
September 04, 2023, 01:56 PM
6guns
Aglifter, can you explain that in a bit more detail? Curious. Thanks.




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September 04, 2023, 01:58 PM
Veeper
What's the percentage of C02 in the atmosphere again?




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September 04, 2023, 02:13 PM
egregore
quote:
The recipients of the funding are Occidental Petroleum …

So after all their posturing and railing against the evil oil companies, the government is partnering with one? Roll Eyes And if all the CO2 is sucked out of the atmosphere, what happens to trees and other photosynthesizing plants? These retarded-ass people can't be gone soon enough.
September 04, 2023, 02:13 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:

The Department of Energy is spending $1.2 billion on experimental technology that tries to vacuum greenhouse gasses out of the sky...


"Experimental technology?" You mean like...trees?


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September 04, 2023, 02:27 PM
6guns
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
quote:
The recipients of the funding are Occidental Petroleum …

So after all their posturing and railing against the evil oil companies, the government is partnering with one? Roll Eyes And if all the CO2 is sucked out of the atmosphere, what happens to trees and other photosynthesizing plants? These retarded-ass people can't be gone soon enough.


Yeah, and something else that occurs to me is that a huge investor in Occidental Petroleum is Warren Buffet. He's a known left-leaning investor and could he have had any influence in this decision?




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September 04, 2023, 02:37 PM
Ozarkwoods
So depleting CO2 from plants is now a good thing? You just can’t fix stupid. We seem to be surrounded by a shit load of stupid! My thought is to give them all a plastic bag with a bungee. Explain to them they each give off CO2 in their breaths, so the best way is to cut off the source as soon as possible then give them instructions how to place the bag over their heads and attach the bungee in picture form.


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September 04, 2023, 06:06 PM
nshumway
We are living the early stages of the movie Idiocracy- earlier today my wife was talking about how well feeding plants Gatorade soon and, before seeing this energy dept. crap, I told her the way we’re going they’ll suck all the co2 out of the air and kill all the plants and be too stupid to know why everything is dead.
September 04, 2023, 06:19 PM
Veeper
quote:
Originally posted by Veeper:
What's the percentage of C02 in the atmosphere again?


.04%


Anyone know the % at which we begin to lose plant life?




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September 04, 2023, 06:28 PM
12131
Someone needs to come up with a perpetual machine that delivers intense public flogging to these shitheads.


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September 04, 2023, 07:23 PM
wcb6092
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:

The Department of Energy is spending $1.2 billion on experimental technology that tries to vacuum greenhouse gasses out of the sky...


"Experimental technology?" You mean like...trees?




That is old school science. The future is to cut down millions of acres of trees to save the planet.



Bill Gates Pushes Plan to Chop Down 70 Million Acres of Trees to ‘Fight Global Warming’

https://slaynews.com/news/bill...ight-global-warming/

Microsoft co-founder is funding a new effort that seeks to chop down a staggering 70 million acres of trees in an effort to allegedly “fight global warming.”

Gates’s organization, Breakthrough Energy, has plowed $6.6 million into the project led by Kodama Systems.

The move will see 70m acres of forests, mostly in the Western United States, cut down.

After the trees have been chopped down, they will be buried.

According to the project organizers, “scientists” say “burying trees can reduce global warming.”

Kodama claims that burying the trees will prevent them from allegedly “spewing” carbon back into the air.

The coordinators of the project are choosing to reap the salable carbon offsets by burying the biomass in dry & oxygen-free “earthenvaults.”

The trees will be buried instead of being used for conventional means, like timber for housing.

More at link

https://slaynews.com/news/bill...ight-global-warming/


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September 04, 2023, 07:28 PM
parabellum
Say

what

?

That's some of the stupidest shit I've heard in a while.
September 04, 2023, 07:33 PM
nhracecraft
Maybe somebody should inform Bill Gates that trees can convert the evil Carbon Dioxide ( Eek ) into Oxygen! Roll Eyes


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September 04, 2023, 07:51 PM
1s1k
quote:
Originally posted by nhracecraft:
Maybe somebody should inform Bill Gates that trees can convert the evil Carbon Dioxide ( Eek ) into Oxygen! Roll Eyes
I thought I read a story a few months ago that the planet is currently at the most green it has been in years. If earth is the most green it's been in years that also means that all the greenery is gobbling up more C02 than ever before. With so many people working from home we are putting less C02 in the air than we have in a long time also.

Something smells fishy.
September 04, 2023, 08:48 PM
shovelhead
And trees were planted in the 30’s to fight erosion in The Dust Bowl. Imagine that.

Bill Gates must have skipped school when they were teaching about that.

What an idiot….


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September 04, 2023, 08:49 PM
BOATTRASH1
^^^^^Bill Gates and anyone associated with this rape of the earth need to be drawn and quartered publicly. INSANITY!
September 04, 2023, 09:43 PM
Lefty Sig
It's just political payouts to campaign contributors to accomplish nothing but to "pay" for the contributions with OUR money.
September 04, 2023, 09:45 PM
sigspecops
Wow! I've heard some incredibly stupid shit in the past few years, but the cutting down trees thing is at the top. Bill Gates can't depart this world soon enough.


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September 04, 2023, 10:08 PM
Rightwire
I would like $15 Trillion to develop a magic wand that will fix everything in one flick.




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