I think the cop was a little over the top on this, but wasn't there.

I would have stopped pretty quickly, as has been said previously, let the cop decide what is safe and not safe.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
You don’t decide the safe place to pull over the officer does ALWAYS.

I call bullshit. I'm in charge of my safety and my family's safety. If I feel it is not safe for myself and my family to pull over, I will wait until it is safe. I don't defer my families safety to anyone, including an officer.

If he wants to arrest me for that, so be it.

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Originally posted by Angus the Kid:
I'm in charge of my safety and my family's safety. If I feel it is not safe for myself and my family to pull over, I will wait until it is safe. I don't defer my families safety to anyone, including an officer.

If he wants to arrest me for that, so be it.

And we have a real example of the results of this viewpoint in the OP.

To me it sounds like mindless bureaucracy at work. The rules is the rules. Orders is orders. Square peg, round hole. Of course when I consider the world cops have to work in with all of the scumbags and liars and cheats and selfishness, I can see where rules and orders make sense of that chaos. What happened to you sucks but once you expose yourself to the world where bureaucracy operates you have to expect the suck if you don't comply immediately.

If a cop wants to pull me over, I don't really care where it is, I'll do so. His safety is his problem.

Similar situation with a different ending. About 10 years ago I was driving my wife's 2006 VW convertible across the Ohio River on the 2nd st bridge. My wife and my 8 year old niece were in the car and we were headed to the Louisville science museum.

I got lit up right in the middle of the bridge. No place to pull over so I continued to drive slowly with my blinkers on. Siren came on so I stopped. Officer came to window and asked for lic/reg. Everything was in order. He asked if I knew how fast I was going, I said about 55. He said he had me @ 53 and speed limit was 40 or 45, I don't remember.

He asked about the nature of the trip and then asked my niece Shelby "should I write him up or let him go" Shelby said "let him go" and we were on our way.

I was surprised he wanted me to stop on the bridge totally blocking the right hand lane but when the siren came on I knew he meant stop now. I think your guy was over the top booking you. A citation would have been plenty. I predict your lawyer will get a favorable outcome.

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Originally posted by joatmonv:
Looks like Cedar Point to me and if that's the case, there is no really good place to pull over once you're on that stretch by the water.

Correct.

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Originally posted by SpinZone:
Was this in Canton?

No.

I had a similar situation a few years back. Truly nowhere to pull over, so I just stopped in the middle of the road and let the intellectual giant pulling me walk up to my window and direct me. It was a little awkward and I felt stupid...but, he couldn't accuse me of fleeing.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
You ran the light at 1st St. and Cedar Point Dr. There's plenty of room to pull over on the right hand side for 1,000 feet after the intersection. Once you reach the causeway though, there isn't a good place to pull over.

Does the Suburban have tinted windows? Big SUVs with tinted windows and Florida plates are a favorite with out of state law enforcement.

I can't believe you were arrested over this. What was your demeanor during the encounter?

Correct. But those 1000 feet were gone by the time he got behind me. There were 4 of us that ran the light. Two vans in front of me, one in each lane. A car next to, but slightly ahead of me.

The car is in FL, of course it has tinted windows.

I was calm, albeit scarred shitless, answered in no sir, yes sir and greater detail when asked. I was always respectful.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:

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Originally posted by Angus the Kid:
I'm in charge of my safety and my family's safety. If I feel it is not safe for myself and my family to pull over, I will wait until it is safe. I don't defer my families safety to anyone, including an officer.

If he wants to arrest me for that, so be it.

And we have a real example of the results of this viewpoint in the OP.

As with any law one is free to comply or not. Hard to argue with someone who knows the consequences and is willing to accept them.

Something seems off here. Took a while to stop. But they ran the guy to ground out in the field and determined nothing was off but took him in anyway?

That shit costs money. You mean to tell me the department and court system are so flush in cash these days that they can afford to clog the system up with chickenshit stuff like this?

Not to mention that it sounds like a lot of resources being diverted for one traffic stop.

Meanwhile Pooky takes notice of the lack of popo on his corner and is running a flash sale for the chickeheads on the block.

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Originally posted by Angus the Kid:

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
You don’t decide the safe place to pull over the officer does ALWAYS.

I call bullshit. I'm in charge of my safety and my family's safety. If I feel it is not safe for myself and my family to pull over, I will wait until it is safe. I don't defer my families safety to anyone, including an officer.

If he wants to arrest me for that, so be it.

Then you go share a jail cell with Holdem

Why did the cop search your car? Did the K-9 alert, did he have a warrant or did you consent?

In these parts, if an officer lights you up and you don't stop immediately, that qualifies under policy and law as a pursuit. Speed doesn't matter. That puts a ton of administrative, civil, and legal responsibility on the officer from the moment they call it in to dispatch and the offender either stops or the pursuit is called off. It also makes the officer start wondering what is going on in the car. Is the driver destroying or hiding drugs? Is the driver about to flee? Is the driver looking for a place to flee on foot? It the driver armed and considering engaging the officer? Traffic stops are high risk encounters for officers and when weird things happen it makes them extra nervous.

I can't speak to the legalities of your situation, but in my part of the country a driver driving more than a mile after initiation of a traffic stop would be an absolutely valid arrest.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

Certainly no grounds for a search but possible grounds for a frisk.
Large distinction between the two.

They asked if they could search. I approved.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
Why did the cop search your car? Did the K-9 alert, did he have a warrant or did you consent?

I did consent. And I saw the officers perform the search. But I never actually saw the K9 exit the vehicle. My wife did not either. So I am 99.9% sure the dog was not used.

I'm guessing that after he called for all that backup he felt he had to make some sort of big deal of the stop. Like many have said, a lot of resources were diverted from more important things.
Maybe he's new or something else happened around there that you may not know of, not being a local.

Please just tell me you slipped in something about being "a traveler" and asked "Am I being detained" unnecessarily a bunch of times..

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
If a cop wants to pull me over, I don't really care where it is, I'll do so. His safety is his problem.

I think you're right.

Given they park behind you (usual practice) they're the one taking the risk of getting hit from behind. If they don't like it after you're both stopped, they could always wave you forward. Then, you're not 'fleeing', you'd be complying.