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This happened in Scottsbluff, Nebraska just a couple of days ago. A meterologist in Cheyenne said that the hailstones at terminal velocity could be approaching 150 mph. Solar is down for awhile, maybe forever.



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https://cowboystatedaily.com/2...ttsbluff-solar-farm/

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Baseball-sized hail took out a solar farm in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, on Friday.

The hail shattered most of the panels on the 5.2-megawatt solar project, sparing an odd panel like missing teeth in a white smile.

Wyoming has only one commercial-scale solar farm, but a second project is under construction south of Cheyenne.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency ranks this area in its the highest category for hail risk on the national index.

Don Day, Cowboy State Daily meteorologist, said the hail would have reached terminal velocity during its descent, which is the maximum speed an object will reach when falling. The hail would have likely struck the panels going 100 to 150 mph.

Looks Destroyed

The entire region has experienced strong storms the past week, which included tornadoes, hail, heavy rains and wind.

A tornado destroyed at least one home in Scottsbluff. Much of the damage to the area was from high winds and hail, which brought down power lines, damaged trees and shattered windshields.

Kevin Spencer, Scottsbluff city manager, told Cowboy State Daily the Nebraska Public Power District, which owns the solar farm, is still assessing the damage, but it’s going to need some repairs.

“Just by looking at it, it looks destroyed to me,” Spencer said.

Spencer said there’s more to a solar farm than just the panels, and so some of the equipment at the farm might have survived the storm. He said he was previously told the panels were hail proof, but that might have meant hail up to a certain size.


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From what I've read, a lot of those solar facilities are on leased land (e.g. 20+ year lease), and a lot of these solar companies are forming a LLC for each solar facility.

Hope the landowner made the leasee (i.e. solar company) put money in escrow for dismantle, remove, and remediate. Otherwise, the LLC is likely to declare bankruptcy and leave that shattered mess.



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They should have used acrylic.

Acrylic, acrylic, acrylic.
 
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Too bad they don't have the means to move them temporarily into a vertical position in cases like this.


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Why in the hell would you build a solar farm in Nebraska in the first place? I hear Arizona is very sunny and hardly ever gets hail.
 
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Why in the hell would you build a solar farm in Nebraska in the first place? I hear Arizona is very sunny and hardly ever gets hail.

It's how local politicians say "See? I'm green too!" I imagine they probably have one or two in Arizona. There's a big one a few miles up the highway from my new home here too. We've had a few thunderstorms, but no hail (`course, I've only been here a few months so far...)
 
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Someone(s) will definitely be seeing green, a different type of green.

I point at things like this and ask people "You really think it's smart to have ALL electric production based on this technology do you?". There is a reason our current power generating plants are not weather dependent.




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The Federal Emergency Management Agency ranks this area in its the highest category for hail risk on the national index.



And yet, lets build one in Nebraska.....

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Originally posted by OcCurt:
Why in the hell would you build a solar farm in Nebraska in the first place? I hear Arizona is very sunny and hardly ever gets hail.

It's how local politicians say "See? I'm green too!" I imagine they probably have one or two in Arizona. There's a big one a few miles up the highway from my new home here too. We've had a few thunderstorms, but no hail (`course, I've only been here a few months so far...)


Federal funds - build it and you get money, to pay local contractors (supposedly) create jobs, create green energy, look good in the papers....
 
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They should have used acrylic.

Acrylic, acrylic, acrylic.


LoL

Good one. Pretty transparent joke though.


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The hail shattered most of the panels on the 5.2-megawatt…
GREAT SCOTT!!



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Originally posted by honestlou:
They should have used acrylic.

Acrylic, acrylic, acrylic.
LoL

Good one. Pretty transparent joke though.

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Just one more downfall of "green" energy.




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Anyone know how old the istallation is? My understanding is the more modern ones are quite hardy compared to the old style panels. Much more resistant to hail strikes.




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It's amazing to see that some panels suffered no hits, right between others that were pummeled
 
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Anyone know how old the istallation is? My understanding is the more modern ones are quite hardy compared to the old style panels. Much more resistant to hail strikes.

I don’t know the age of it, but it seems to me that baseball-size hail might be pretty tough on even “space-age plastics.”


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Originally posted by OcCurt:
Why in the hell would you build a solar farm in Nebraska in the first place? I hear Arizona is very sunny and hardly ever gets hail.

It's how local politicians say "See? I'm green too!" I imagine they probably have one or two in Arizona. There's a big one a few miles up the highway from my new home here too. We've had a few thunderstorms, but no hail (`course, I've only been here a few months so far...)
They're long-term leasing prime farmland along existing powerlines all over the country. Even places like Upstate NY which has long winters (i.e. not a lot of sun).

How local politicians say "See? I'm green too!" is with grants, ridiculous tax breaks, publicly subsidized low interest loans, etc. to these solar companies.



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