Fellow forum members, Im driving to Phoenix,AZ tomorrow from Las Vegas,NV to visit my daughter and her family. I want to gift her one of my pistols I never fired. I just found out today she is into guns also, when she sent me a video of her and her husband shooting indoor range.

Since Im driving, I want to just bring the pistol with me and give it to her as a gift. I thought I have to send the pistol FFL to FFL (since the pistol is crossing stateline). My FFL told me that since I will be driving tomorrow, I can just take it with me and give it to her in person. My FFL even looked up AZ law and saw HB 2182 (561-R). I will look it up when I get home. Driving home now.

What is the forum knowledge about State
To State, intra-familiar transfers? Need to be FFL to FFL? Or I can just take it with me tomorrow?

If you are a Nevada resident and she an Arizona resident, it must be transferred to her via a federal firearms licensee in Arizona. You can deliver it to the licensee yourself; if they agree, for transfer to your daughter (which happens there and then via a 4473 and an NICS call).

Thanks. I’m going to try that tomorrow when I get there. I am a NV resident. She is AZ resident. Worse can happen is they say NO. Then I will just take it back with me and ship it FFL to FFL (NV to AZ).

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
If you are a Nevada resident and she an Arizona resident, it must be transferred to her via a federal firearms licensee in Arizona. You can deliver it to the licensee yourself; if they agree, for transfer to your daughter (which happens there and then via a 4473 and an NICS call).

A pawnshop with a license is usually an inexpensive way to go.

I would leave my gun at her house so I could carry it when I visit. And because I am a nice guy, she could use it when I am not there.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
I would leave my gun at her house so I could carry it when I visit. And because I am a nice guy, she could use it when I am not there.

This is what I, as a fellow Nevadan would also do.

Doesn't Clark Co. have blue cards, aka pistol registration? You can leave the gun with her in AZ and no one will be any the wiser, but it's not totally compliant with the law.

I'll do the transfer for you, if you (both of you) can come to my office near Deer Valley Airport on Wed. No charge. I can't do it before then.

Arizona does not give a shit where a firearm comes from. I have bought many a firearm across the country and in other countries and gifted them to my sons and other relatives and have had no trouble with the law in this country or the states the recipients reside. No problems unless you reside or they reside in a non freedom state. All my firearms are the property of me and my sons/grandsons/granddaughters/cousins etc..etc. Transfer to family is no problem unless you or they live in a non freedom state. I bought a pistol in Germany as a GI and had to bring into the U.S. with the blessings and official docs of the ATF. That pistol was gifted to my son in another state and then later on gifted to a grandson residing in another state with no transfer paperwork. Most of my firearms are from my father, grandfathers, and uncles and Johnny Law has no qualms about that unless you live in a commie state.

Artie is thinking along the same path I’d use.

Or I’d just tell her that I bought this as a gift before she moved out of your home and she must have left it at your house accidentally.

There’s no registration in AZ, so no one will know when or why or whatever, about her gun.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
Doesn't Clark Co. have blue cards, aka pistol registration? You can leave the gun with her in AZ and no one will be any the wiser, but it's not totally compliant with the law.

I'll do the transfer for you, if you (both of you) can come to my office near Deer Valley Airport on Wed. No charge. I can't do it before then.

blue cards went away 2017ish

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Originally posted by SFCUSARET:
Arizona does not give a shit where a firearm comes from. I have bought many a firearm across the country and in other countries and gifted them to my sons and other relatives and have had no trouble with the law in this country or the states the recipients reside. No problems unless you reside or they reside in a non freedom state. All my firearms are the property of me and my sons/grandsons/granddaughters/cousins etc..etc. Transfer to family is no problem unless you or they live in a non freedom state.

While Arizona might not give a shit, the ATF certainly does...In this case Federal Law requires that the handgun be transferred by an FFL in Arizona.

Au contraire mon ami, no such ATF rule applies to Az State law in regards to private transfer of firearms ( long and short arms) to private parties. Suggest you research better my friend!

Yeah. He's not selling it to her, it's a gift.

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Originally posted by SFCUSARET:
Au contraire mon ami, no such ATF rule applies to Az State law in regards to private transfer of firearms ( long and short arms) to private parties. Suggest you research better friend!

If the parties do NOT reside in the same state, transfer via FFL is REQUIRED by Federal Law!

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

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Originally posted by SFCUSARET:
Au contraire mon ami, no such ATF rule applies to Az State law in regards to private transfer of firearms ( long and short arms) to private parties. Suggest you research better friend!

If the parties do NOT reside in the same state, transfer via FFL is REQUIRED by Federal Law!

Shall Not Be Infringed

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

If the parties do NOT reside in the same state, transfer via FFL is REQUIRED by Federal Law![/QUOTE]

Gray area Mon Ami, whose to say such firearm was not already the property of the recipient prior to transport to the receiving state location. I stored my firearms at my fathers house in Az before being deployed overseas. Came back to the U.S. to Ft Lewis, WA, Father transported firearms to me from Az to Ft Lewis to me witb full knowlege of command. No ATF or state law broken and most of those firearms were not bought by me.

Rick, thank you very much for the offer. I appreciate it. Unfortunately, I have to drive back to Vegas tomorrow afternoon. Other than visiting my daughter and grandkids, I am actually picking up my 82 year old mom so she can spend New Year with us. She don't like to fly because of her legs.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
Doesn't Clark Co. have blue cards, aka pistol registration? You can leave the gun with her in AZ and no one will be any the wiser, but it's not totally compliant with the law.

I'll do the transfer for you, if you (both of you) can come to my office near Deer Valley Airport on Wed. No charge. I can't do it before then.

I called the gun store where my daughter went shooting with her husband today. The person I spoke to said we really don't need to do FFL transfer since I am gifting the firearm to my daughter. The staff also suggested I can just leave my daughter a written note that I am giving it to her as a gift. Or, so I have peace of mind, they can do the person to person transfer at their shop, where my daughter will fill up the necessary paper for the transfer.

There are no exceptions under federal law for gifts, or for family to family transfers, other than inheritance upon death. If you reside in different states, an FFL transfer is necessary to be legal.

You can loan a gun to another person for sporting purposes, but you cannot gift it or sell it.

The OP asked about the law; not about “what are my chances of getting caught if I do this…”

That is totally wrong. You need to do an FFL transfer. I don't get any of the above comments to the contrary. 10 minutes and its legal. Otherwise it is not.