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Hard to Believe, California (my home state) Just Got Dumber. Natural gas heaters and water heaters banned in 2030

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September 23, 2022, 01:26 PM
TomV
Hard to Believe, California (my home state) Just Got Dumber. Natural gas heaters and water heaters banned in 2030

September 23, 2022, 01:33 PM
nhtagmember
Cali is at the point where it’s making Mexico look good
September 23, 2022, 03:18 PM
bigdeal
So to recap, Cali has opted to have....

- Electric cars....they can't charge.
- Electric hot water and heaters....they can't run.
- No semi-trucks....so no food or other goods.

Retarded anyone??


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September 23, 2022, 05:14 PM
selogic
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
So to recap, Cali has opted to have....

- Electric cars....they can't charge.
- Electric hot water and heaters....they can't run.
- No semi-trucks....so no food or other goods.

Retarded anyone??
No portable generators , no gas powered string trimmers or blowers ...
September 23, 2022, 05:15 PM
selogic
No wood burning fireplaces ..
September 23, 2022, 05:44 PM
drill sgt
What is Commiefornia planning to do with the present and future gasoline powered vehicles come 2035??? How much longer will the owners still be allowed to purchase gasoline or diesel prior to the 2035 deadline.. And what happens after the 2035 date will all fossil fuel vehicles be required to be turned in so that they can be destroyed and turned into shredded metal scrap.................. drill sgt.
September 23, 2022, 05:45 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by selogic:
No portable generators , no gas powered string trimmers or blowers ...
My point was more....

- No way to go anywhere.
- No ability to live comfortably.
- No ability to simply acquire food or staples.

Sound like a first world country to anyone???


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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
September 23, 2022, 06:12 PM
18Z50
Black market water heaters! Fantastic!
September 23, 2022, 11:13 PM
SeaCliff
They're just making SDG&E stockholders more money.
Shhhh, they forgot my Gas fireplace.
September 24, 2022, 02:07 AM
Nuclear
Don’t forget that diesel semi trucks move loads from the California ports east to the rest of the country.

These nitwits will pull us down with them.

I say invoke the real meaning of the interstate commerce clause and stop all these BS rules that restrict trade between the rest of the country and CA.
September 24, 2022, 04:41 AM
gearhounds
quote:
Originally posted by selogic:
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
So to recap, Cali has opted to have....

- Electric cars....they can't charge.
- Electric hot water and heaters....they can't run.
- No semi-trucks....so no food or other goods.

Retarded anyone??
No portable generators , no gas powered string trimmers or blowers ...

And when the suffering population wants answers…blame the tried and true boogeymen… man made climate change.




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September 24, 2022, 09:20 AM
sigcrazy7
Why do trains get a pass? While truckers are expected to buy into new emissions every decade, the railroads are running trains with seventy year old emissions. I’ve seen two stroke EMD locos in California. What gives?



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September 24, 2022, 09:26 AM
parabellum
Sorry, would someone please tell me what their objection is to clean-burning natural gas? Roll Eyes


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September 24, 2022, 09:43 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by drill sgt:
What is Commiefornia planning to do with the present and future gasoline powered vehicles come 2035??? How much longer will the owners still be allowed to purchase gasoline or diesel prior to the 2035 deadline.. And what happens after the 2035 date will all fossil fuel vehicles be required to be turned in so that they can be destroyed and turned into shredded metal scrap.................. drill sgt.


The law bans the sale of ICE powered cars and trucks. Not gas and diesel vehicles outright.


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September 24, 2022, 10:16 AM
MikeinNC




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September 24, 2022, 10:31 AM
joel9507
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
Calexit!

If we don't kick them out of the Union, we will all pay for their stupidity.

The smart move would be to make them like American Samoa and Puerto Rico...a possession!

Voila - no loony senators or congressmen, no pesky electoral votes. Imagine Pelosi reduced to 'observer' status. Smile
September 24, 2022, 10:35 AM
sigcrazy7
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Sorry, would someone please tell me what their objection is to clean-burning natural gas? Roll Eyes


Even worse, let’s say the demand for NG fell to zero. There would still be the need for oil (society uses a lot of petrochemicals and lubricants, even absent ICE transportation). In the process of oil extraction, there is NG recovered. If there were no demand for the NG, it would just get flared at the wellhead. California would rather waste the gas then allow its use.

If I were to give them the benefit of the doubt, perhaps CARB figures that it’s more efficient to use NG to make electricity and then drive a heat pump then it is to burn it in a residential furnace. I doubt they’re thinking is that sophisticated. It’s probably just a knee-jerk reaction against all fossil fuels.



Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus
September 24, 2022, 11:20 AM
F_L
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Sorry, would someone please tell me what their objection is to clean-burning natural gas? Roll Eyes

Burning natural gas releases CO2. CO2 is one of those scary greenhouse gases. Never mind that natural gas is the cleanest and cheapest of the fossil fuels, or CO2 is naturally occurring.
September 24, 2022, 11:39 AM
corsair
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Sorry, would someone please tell me what their objection is to clean-burning natural gas? Roll Eyes

In the minds of the Leftist, anything carbon burning is bad ergo, such fuel usage must be eliminated at all costs, even if that means we have to take several steps backwards as a civilization and get by on a thin gruel diet of renewables. And, don't even think about bringing up nuclear Roll Eyes

quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
Why do trains get a pass? While truckers are expected to buy into new emissions every decade, the railroads are running trains with seventy year old emissions. I’ve seen two stroke EMD locos in California. What gives?

Don't give them any ideas....reality is I'm sure its coming.
You tell them a locomotive is diesel-electric drive and they'll usually say ok but....
September 24, 2022, 05:59 PM
Ironbutt
I saw Sonny Barger, the founder of the Hells Angels died & it got me to thinking. When is Newsome going to tell the Hells Angels, Pagans, and the other outlaw biker gangs in CA that they need to change over to e-bikes? Sonny's funeral is at the Stockton 99 Speedway, and it would be an excellent time for Newsome to show up, pay his respects, then make the announcement.Smile


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