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It's begun, "the mark of the beast": Wisconsin company to implant microchips in its employees in August
July 25, 2017, 10:00 AM
wcb6092It's begun, "the mark of the beast": Wisconsin company to implant microchips in its employees in August
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Originally posted by JALLEN:
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Originally posted by wcb6092:
This and a cashless society, and you truly would have to have the mark or "chip" to buy or sell. Bad things always start out slow and get people acclimated to them.
Like cars.
Like weaving looms made of metal.
Like steam engines.
Like computers, especially those itty bitty ones that sit on your desk, very bad.
Like credit cards.
Like TVs.
I guess it is what you believe, or don't believe in.
Thousands of years ago when this was written,someone got incredibly lucky or the words were divinely inspired.
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July 25, 2017, 10:32 AM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
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Originally posted by JALLEN:
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Originally posted by wcb6092:
This and a cashless society, and you truly would have to have the mark or "chip" to buy or sell. Bad things always start out slow and get people acclimated to them.
Like cars.
Like weaving looms made of metal.
Like steam engines.
Like computers, especially those itty bitty ones that sit on your desk, very bad.
Like credit cards.
Like TVs.
I guess it is what you believe, or don't believe in.
Thousands of years ago when this was written,someone got incredibly lucky or the words were divinely inspired.
Huh?
What are you talking about?
I listed a number of items which were considered evil when first introduced.
There were riots over the weaving looms, during which the looms were destroyed, because they were seen as threats to jobs. That's what I am talking about.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown July 25, 2017, 10:40 AM
florida boyNot gonna happen!
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August 02, 2017, 07:33 AM
Elk Hunterquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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However, he does stress that the program is optional for those who wish to opt out.
Yeah, uh, I think I'll opt out. Thank you very much.
Yeah, me, too.
Wonder how long it will be before it becomes mandatory.
Shades of the end times.
Elk
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August 02, 2017, 08:02 AM
CromActually, I was thinking about this in association with biometeric quick-access gun safes just yesterday.
I don't trust a fingerprint reader to be accurate..justified or not ?
And I don't want to have to carry around an RFID Key Fob or card, which could be lost o=r stolen.
But if I had an RFID chip implanted in the skin of my hand, that actually seemed like a good idea. Only I would know about it.
What would be the downside?
"Crom is strong! If I die, I have to go before him, and he will ask me, 'What is the riddle of steel?' If I don't know it, he will cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me."
August 02, 2017, 08:10 AM
GeorgeairWe had employees circa 2001 make the same religious arguments against fingerprint scanners for access.
I'll agree that I'd pass on this, unless I get a lifetime contract. What's the plan when you leave them - they hand you a scalpel on the way out?
You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02
August 02, 2017, 08:45 AM
flashguyquote:
Originally posted by Georgeair:
We had employees circa 2001 make the same religious arguments against fingerprint scanners for access.
I'll agree that I'd pass on this, unless I get a lifetime contract. What's the plan when you leave them - they hand you a scalpel on the way out?
One presumes they just disable the code in your chip. When you hire in somewhere else, they re-register your chip with them.
Not saying I want one, though. Obviously, it should be placed in the left hand--one wouldn't want it being scanned and copied just from a handshake, would one? There are bar code readers that can pull data from several inches away now, so one would expect the same capability to read these chips. Would we all have to wear metal gloves?
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth August 02, 2017, 09:07 AM
rscalzoquote:
emand it back or just deduct the cost of the device from your last check?
I'm guessing they simply cancel out than identifier in the system which is no different than the RFI cards.
August 02, 2017, 09:11 AM
sredingTime to do a kickstarter campaign to make tinfoil gloves I guess?
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August 02, 2017, 09:30 AM
trapper189quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
How many things would a person buy just by waving his hands around without meaning to?
flashguy
You mean like this:
[Sir Alec Guiness]These are not the chips you are looking for[/Sir Alec Guinness]
August 02, 2017, 01:50 PM
PeterGVOh, c'mon!
I've LONG said that I'd be happy to have such a chip in my hand if I could use it for enough stuff. Like paying at the gas station or the grocery store.
I really don't see all the doom and gloom around this. It's sounds very convenient to me. I mean... why not?
You decide you don't want it, you just have it removed. It's not like there's general anesthesia involved.
August 02, 2017, 01:59 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by PeterGV:
Oh, c'mon!
I've LONG said that I'd be happy to have such a chip in my hand...
Well, you can have mine. Have at it.
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August 02, 2017, 02:09 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by Crom:
What would be the downside?
They could cut your hand off, to open your safe.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים August 02, 2017, 02:11 PM
Mr. Peteronimanquote:
Originally posted by FenderBender:
give me an rfid card I can stick in my wallet it works just fine.
or leave in the drawer....
I have a TWIC card for working and they are chipped, but unless I need it stays at work in my desk
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August 02, 2017, 02:43 PM
BBMWThey should just use a fingerprint or iris/retina scan. Why bother implanting a tag, when we already come with a few built in.
August 02, 2017, 02:48 PM
PeterGVquote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
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Originally posted by Crom:
What would be the downside?
They could cut your hand off, to open your safe.
Same risk for fingerprint keyed access.