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Another stolen election???

It's not like everyone on the planet didn't see this coming.

Bolsonaro Still Silent Morning After Election Defeat As World Leaders Congratulate Lula

Into Monday mid-morning Brazil's president Jair Bolsonaro still hasn't conceded defeat to his leftist rival Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. The results were announced fairly quickly after polls closed Monday evening.

After 100% of votes were reported counted, Lula barely passed the the required 50% mark, coming it at 50.9% to Bolsonaro’s 49.10%. At 60.3 million votes to the incumbent's 58.2 million, this was a difference of just over 2 million votes.

"This country needs peace and unity," Lula said in a victory speech in Sao Paulo. He said the challenge set before the country is "immense" while vowing "democracy is back" - in reference to Bolsonaro's detractors often dubbing him a 'far right dictator'.
Via Reuters

As The Guardian observes, pressure is growing for Bolsonaro to officially concede, given that already, "A stream of world leaders have stepped forward to recognize Lula’s stunning political comeback, including the US president, Joe Biden, the UK prime minister, Rishi Sunak, the Russian leader, Vladimir Putin, and China’s Communist party chief, Xi Jinping."

The upset marks the first time in Brazilian history that a serving president has been voted out of office. Bolsonaro will serve until Lula takes over on January 1, 2023.

France24 notes that there's currently a climate of trepidation as it's unclear whether Bolsonaro will concede, and after there's been instances of political violence among rival supporters during the campaign:

Lula supporters erupted into joy and celebration across the country, but not without trepidation. Since the first round of the elections on October 2, when Bolsonaro largely beat the polls and came out with an unexpectedly strong showing of 43 percent against Lula’s 48 percent, many feared that the incumbent could potentially claim a second straight mandate.

All eyes are also on Bolsonaro's official social media accounts, which have been quiet for the past 24 hours. President Bolsonaro's last tweet came shortly before midnight on the eve of the election. He quoted from the Bible, the book of Ephesians, which says "Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil..."

Bolsonaro has recently expressed concern over the potential for the country's voting machines to be manipulated or tampered with, something that his political opponents have dismissed as "Trump-style" election denial rhetoric.

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...rs-congratulate-lula



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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I'm sure it's just as reliable as anything you can 'report' about what's going on in your town in Minnesota... Roll Eyes



I'm not the one posting rumors and anecdotal evidence, now am I? Its a long standing requirement on this forum that such stories be backed up by some kind of links to sources. Roll Eyes
 
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^^^The OP should've posted a link, but he was NOT posting 'Rumors and Anecdotal Evidence'... Roll Eyes


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Dr. Benjamin Braddock
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Bolsonaro won every region of Brazil except for the one which coincidentally happens to be the most corrupt part of the country, Nordeste, which is controlled by drug traffickers and gangs.
5:58 PM · Oct 30, 2022



https://twitter.com/GraduatedB...m0fXckUbIUlXyzxYSDNg



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Narcotraffickers celebrating election of corrupt ex-convict leftist Lula da Silva as President of Brazil
https://twitter.com/i/status/1586869632694099969


It’s on Twitter, so it must be true.
 
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Let's please take it easy, guys. The thread is fine, nothing to get in a lather about.
 
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Unfortunately, this is the way our southern neighbors are dancing these days. See my signature below for advice not taken by the Latin Left


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Outrage As Car Plows Into Pro-Bolsonaro Crowd On Blocked Road: "Federal Intervention Now!"

Brazil's outgoing President Jair Bolsonaro in the clearest evidence thus far that he intends to oversee a peaceful transition of power after "Lula" da Silva's election win has urged his supporters to "unblock the roads" as mass demonstrations continue.

On Wednesday chants across pro-Bolsonaro gatherings could be heard calling for military intervention, as they are calling the integrity of the election into question. These rallies over the past couple days have began growing in front of military installations. The huge size and extent of the protests have many political leaders concerned over the possibility of instability before Lula takes office on January 1st.

Bolsonaro addressed the unrest in a Wednesday speech, as frustration grows over lengthening traffic jams and supply chain problems outside of Brazil's largest cities:

"I want to make an appeal to them: Unblock the roads," Bolsonaro said late Wednesday. The blockages do "not seem to me to be part of legitimate demonstrations."

"Other demonstrations that are taking place throughout Brazil in squares... are part of the democratic game. They are welcome," he added.

Bolsonaro had been silent from Sunday until giving a very brief concession speech on Tuesday, except he neither congratulated Lula nor admitted defeat. However, his chief of staff did confirm there would be a transition to a new government.

But violence has begun to break out, including the below shocking scene on Wednesday in which a man in a speeding car plowed through a crowd of Bolsonaro supporters...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...ral-intervention-now



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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No skin off my nose, for the time being, but it does appear the old/new president favors our former president turned VP for our next elections. Hope it doesn’t turn into a problem.

Way I see it, the resl issue is that the elections revealed Brazil a country split in half right down the middle and by an insignificant margin.
Argentina is living a similar scenario and it has not been easy.
Each Government decision is questioned at least by half of the population when it’s not argued in strong terms by their “own” troops.

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George Takei is celebrating.


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