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Maybe Duck Duck Go isn't better than Goog after all?

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December 18, 2020, 04:09 PM
apprentice
Maybe Duck Duck Go isn't better than Goog after all?
If anyone here can offer insight on whether or not DDG is selling data to Google please do so.

Link to interesting article from August 2019:

https://godfatherpolitics.com/...data-over-to-google/
December 18, 2020, 04:15 PM
marksman41
Sounds like I'll be using Yippy.com for my go-to search engine from now on.




December 18, 2020, 05:02 PM
ensigmatic
That article is riddled with nonsense.

First of all: Browser cookies, in and of themselves, are harmless. They are simply a way for a site to determine things about your visit or, possibly, the fact you have visited.

SIGforum sets a cookie in your browser. That's how it knows you logged in and wished to stay logged-in.

Yes, cookies can be used for tracking purposes. But just because a site sets cookies in your browser doesn't mean it's "tracking" you, other than what I described above.

And tell me just how Yippie.com's CEO can see DDG's source code?

I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned with OAN and the quality of their reporting. They're beginning to resemble the National Enquirer more than a credible news source.

I like this, too: GodfatherPolitics I guess would have you believe it's fighting the good fight for... what? conservative ideals, I guess? Yet they're clearly feathering their own nest with this "report," particularly since they admit they're hosted by the very site that would benefit from it, and the Sarah Corriher report in the same article, meanwhile, asks one to "Like Godfather Politics on Facebook and Twitter"

quote:
Originally posted by marksman41:
Sounds like I'll be using Yippy.com for my go-to search engine from now on.

You go right ahead and do that



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
December 18, 2020, 05:07 PM
sig2392
I don't want to do a deep dive on cookies here but this is a hit piece from someone that is being hosted by yippy.com.


DDG is about as private as it gets for now.
December 18, 2020, 06:16 PM
.38supersig
DuckGo = Cookies
Google = Supercookies



December 18, 2020, 07:40 PM
architect
It's not whether they collect your data, but what they do with it after they have it.
December 18, 2020, 10:00 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
DuckGo = Cookies
Google = Supercookies

Uhm... no.

A so-called "supercookie" isn't even really a "cookie" in the sense of the original meaning of a cookie.

A cookie is sent to your browser by a web site, and that site can subsequently query your browser about the existence of that cookie and what it contains. Cookies aren't really code, per se, but data.

So-called "supercookies" aren't sent to your browser or deposited in your browser's data storage at all. They are additional data inserted into your browser's response to web sites. As such: That data has to pass through the thing that inserts them. E.g.: Your ISP's network, if it was proxying web connections, could do that. The point here is neither Google or anybody else can insert supercookies into HTTP/HTTPS data streams that are not actively passing through their network.



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher