If you really want to do something, and it needs to be quick, sell the rounds in this inflated market.
Then send the money to a legit organization.
Quick and easy.

Unless you have a warehouse stacked high will pallet after pallet, I doubt very much your contribution would help. Probably get tied up until long after all this is over.

Better find some charity, or see if you've got a local community of Ukrainians, we have a church down the street.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

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I don't think they use AK47s there.

Yeah they do, and it can be done. A company out of AZ just sent a million rounds of 7.62. Some legal/shipping hurdles though.

From my understanding, they are a manufacturer.
That’s a little different than an individual trying to send it.

Man, Jesus.

Do NOT bring weapons to the Ukraine Embassy in DC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...sy-war-volunteer-dc/

Indiana man charged with bringing weapons to Ukrainian Embassy in D.C. is arraigned

Police said three men have shown up at the embassy this week volunteering to fight in the war against Russia

By Peter Hermann and Dan Lamothe
Yesterday at 11:00 a.m. EST

A man from Indiana who was arrested after police said he drove to the Ukrainian Embassy in Georgetown with a shotgun to volunteer to fight in the war against Russia was released from jail Friday.

Stephen Jay Struthers, 49, of Lafayette, Ind., faces firearms and weapons charges stemming from his arrest Thursday. A D.C. Superior Court judge ordered Struthers to return to the District for a hearing April 6.

The U.S. attorney’s office said it did not pursue charges against a second man who was arrested along with Struthers and accused of possessing prohibited weapons, described by authorities as machete and a dagger.

Struthers could not be reached Friday, and Struthers’s attorney said he would not comment, because he had not reviewed the case.

An arrest affidavit says uniformed officers with the Secret Service grew suspicious of the men standing outside the embassy and stopped their vehicle when they drove away. Police said one man was dressed in military-style fatigues.

The affidavit says Struthers told officers they had come to the embassy with a “shotgun and some blades” to “volunteer to fight for Ukraine.”

Police said they found a shotgun, a machete, seven knives, brass knuckles, a sling and a laser pointer in the vehicle. Officials had said Thursday they had also found two handguns, but those weapons were not listed in the affidavit.

Both men served in the Army, said Madison Bonzo, a service spokeswoman.

Struthers served in the Army Reserve from November 1989 to March 2001 as a material handling specialist and as a fire support specialist in the active-duty Army from March 2001 to December 2002. He deployed to Kuwait from December 1990 to August 1991, serving during the Persian Gulf War and left the military as a specialist, Bonzo said.

The other man — who is not being identified, because he does not face criminal charges — was an infantryman and served in Iraq for about a year. He left the Army as a sergeant, Bonzo said.

On Monday, the Secret Service said another man was arrested at the Ukrainian Embassy after he drove to the District from Nebraska. An arrest affidavit says he stood at attention at the embassy’s entrance draped in an American flag.

Police said they questioned him when he started to put on a ballistic vest. He told police, according to the affidavit, he had come to “fight for Ukraine.”

Angel Raymond Luna, 30, was charged with several firearms offenses. Police said they found two guns and ammunition in his vehicle.

His attorney, John L. Machado, said Luna has been released and has a court hearing set for April. He would not comment on his client but said he did not dispute the account from police.

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Originally posted by Tirod:
Im not happy to hear those ammo companies are donating when it really is a few days consumption in a major war.

It was cheap advertisement. Virtue signal and let suckers like us drive the viral marketing campaign.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:...

It’s virtue signaling in a way that means the donation won’t actually cost the signaler anything.

Yep. Harsh, but real.

That ammo donation by those companies leaves the American market short.

Send your ammo budget for the year as a donation is your choice, companies forcing a shortage during high demand will only drive prices up. So who are they really helping? Not you or me, but indirectly, this administration - which is anti gun from the beginning.

It won't make much difference if we can keep our Braces but see ammo costs move to $2.00 a round, we've already cut back already. Now add $6 a gallon gas and $6 a gallon milk.

Ukraine is just the excuse to stick it to us even more.

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The affidavit says Struthers told officers they had come to the embassy with a “shotgun and some blades” to “volunteer to fight for Ukraine.”

Police said they found a shotgun, a machete, seven knives, brass knuckles,

Ah, yes. All the weaponry most commonly used by modern militaries.


"Hey Bubba, hold my beer. I think there's a Russian patrol over yonder. Ima go punch 'em in the face with my brass knuckles and then chop 'em in half with this here machete. You cover me with the scattergun and these throwin' knives, in case any of them try to make a run for it."

Shoot it in the air in the general direction of Ukraine

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
Shoot it in the air in the general direction of Ukraine

Preferably if you got a wind from the west, or they might not get all the way there.

D.U.M.B.

DON'T! JUST DON'T!

My ex works for a company that at times deals with ITAR related items to foreign businesses. The penalties are extremely severe and sometimes the smallest thing can be an internal part that is prohibited. Trying to do something as obvious as shipping arms/ammo is an absolute "Go to prison now!" type of violation.
We have a promonate citizen from this town in prison right now for shipping arms to one of our allies in the Mid East. Even though the recipients were "on our side" .gov had no sense of humor or mercy when it came to sentencing.

ITAR also covers "ideas" and not just "stuff", too. So "training" a foreign force or giving them tactics can be a violation.

Not sure if the people who have jumped on a plane to go fight the Red Menace are going to somehow run afoul of ITAR when/if they come back.

If you want to help, donate to these guys…

https://www.projectdynamo.org/

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Originally posted by Tirod:
That ammo donation by those companies leaves the American market short.

Send your ammo budget for the year as a donation is your choice, companies forcing a shortage during high demand will only drive prices up. So who are they really helping? Not you or me, but indirectly, this administration - which is anti gun from the beginning.



Ukraine is just the excuse to stick it to us even more.

That is a very selfish thing to say.

Innocent women and children are being murdered and you are worried about ammo prices being driven up artificially?

Its their product, their money. They can do as they please. Its your fault for not stacking it deep when it was cheap.

I'm fine with it if they use it to kill a few hundred Russians with it.

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Originally posted by walker77:

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Originally posted by Tirod:
That ammo donation by those companies leaves the American market short.

Send your ammo budget for the year as a donation is your choice, companies forcing a shortage during high demand will only drive prices up. So who are they really helping? Not you or me, but indirectly, this administration - which is anti gun from the beginning.



Ukraine is just the excuse to stick it to us even more.

That is a very selfish thing to say.

Innocent women and children are being murdered and you are worried about ammo prices being driven up artificially?

Its their product, their money. They can do as they please. Its your fault for not stacking it deep when it was cheap.

I'm fine with it if they use it to kill a few hundred Russians with it.

I’m a bit curious. How do folks choose which world violence issue to support?

I mean literally there dozens and dozens and dozens of wars, totalitarian autocracy, genocide and other very terrible things happening all over the globe right now where innocent people are getting killed, raped, hurt.

Why is Ukraine higher on the priority list over the other worldly conflicts, or even huge problems we have here?

6 million people were just killed by China.

Our neighbor to the north just went full fascist and our neighbor to the south is happy to send in millions of illegal border jumpers per annum.

My charitable donations go to Saint Jude Children’s Hospital

My ammo collection… Well… lost it when the boat sank

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by walker77:

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Originally posted by Tirod:
That ammo donation by those companies leaves the American market short.

Send your ammo budget for the year as a donation is your choice, companies forcing a shortage during high demand will only drive prices up. So who are they really helping? Not you or me, but indirectly, this administration - which is anti gun from the beginning.



Ukraine is just the excuse to stick it to us even more.

That is a very selfish thing to say.

Innocent women and children are being murdered and you are worried about ammo prices being driven up artificially?

Its their product, their money. They can do as they please. Its your fault for not stacking it deep when it was cheap.

I'm fine with it if they use it to kill a few hundred Russians with it.

I’m a bit curious. How do folks choose which world violence issue to support?

I mean literally there dozens and dozens and dozens of wars, totalitarian autocracy, genocide and other very terrible things happening all over the globe right now where innocent people are getting killed, raped, hurt.

Why is Ukraine higher on the priority list over the other worldly conflicts, or even huge problems we have here?

6 million people were just killed by China.

Our neighbor to the north just went full fascist and our neighbor to the south is happy to send in millions of illegal border jumpers per annum.

My charitable donations go to Saint Jude Children’s Hospital

My ammo collection… Well… lost it when the boat sank

I get where you are coming from. But this thread is about Ukraine not china and Mexico.

Whatever it is they ARE using, it seems to be working pretty well. The Sovs are getting their asses handed to them, I'm happy to relate.

Two generals and a so-called 'war-lord' have had their 'sins forgiven' so far. Many more to come, no doubt.