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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones:
Someone here called it...leftist nut jobs have decided that its all Trump's fault that the Iranians shot down the airliner...

And in other news, the sky became significantly brighter this morning after the sun rose.

Did anyone not anticipate that? Really and truly?

“If Trump had not been elected, he could not have ordered the killing of [the terrorist], and if he had not ordered the killing, the Iranians would not have deployed their AA missiles, and if they had not deployed their missiles, they would not have fired at the airliner, and if they had not fired at the airliner, it would not have been shot down: Ipso facto Trump is responsible for its having been shot down.”
See how obvious—not to mention simple—the reasoning is?

This reasoning is unassailable.

^^^^ LOLOLOLOL!

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
And in other news, the sky became significantly brighter this morning after the sun rose.

Did anyone not anticipate that? Really and truly?

“If Trump had not been elected, he could not have ordered the killing of [the terrorist], and if he had not ordered the killing, the Iranians would not have deployed their AA missiles, and if they had not deployed their missiles, they would not have fired at the airliner, and if they had not fired at the airliner, it would not have been shot down: Ipso facto Trump is responsible for its having been shot down.”
See how obvious—not to mention simple—the reasoning is?

I'll come clean. I shot it down. I voted for Trump. deplorable me. will shoot down the next one in 21 too.

The Iranian 'authorities' are taking us all for fools.

'We emphatically deny that the site is being cleared by bulldozers!!'

Actually, it's true, bulldozers pe se are NOT being used to clear the site, but video on the spot shows very large front-end loaders doing just that. Caroline Hawley, BBC's ME correspondent, reports that the site is not secured, and that it is populated by scavengers, picking up wreckage and personal possessions of the victims.

By the time that the foreign investigators get there, they are more likely to find a shopping mall and kindergarten in its place...

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
The Iranian 'authorities' are taking us all for fools.

By the time that the foreign investigators get there, they are more likely to find a shopping mall and kindergarten in its place...

Nah, for those that remember history, it’ll be a baby milk factory!

Likely the Iranians did collect the data and cockpit voice black boxes. And are now working diligently to make sure that no data can be obtained from them.

“Oh, they’re badly damaged. So sad…”

At a minimum, Saddam trotted out Baghdad Bob. The Persians show the world a cleared debris site & say they didn’t clean anything! They’ve learned zip.

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
Likely the Iranians did collect the data and cockpit voice black boxes. And are now working diligently to make sure that no data can be obtained from them.

“Oh, they’re badly damaged. So sad…”

Actually, the Iranians have already said that.

"But the report also confirmed that both of the “black boxes” that contain data and cockpit communications from the plane had been recovered, though they sustained damage and some parts of their memory were lost."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/...on-officials-believe

The black boxes have been wiped by this point- the criminal democrats are safe to start bowing, scraping, and apologizing again.

The bodies of the dead will tell a story when given a chance.

Iran is already saber-rattling. Hopefully this is just for the consumption of their people, but they really don't how to shut up.

https://freebeacon.com/nationa...DkT_7oQO9uc9WB5c0r8c



Top Iranian military figures on Thursday said the Islamic Republic's recent missile strikes on U.S. outposts and assets are "the start of big operations which will continue in the entire region."

"The missile strikes on one of the United States's most important bases within the framework of martyr [Qassem] Soleimani operation was the start of big operations which will continue in the entire region," said General Amir Ali Hajizadeh, commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps's (IRGC) Aerospace Force.

Iran's missile strike Wednesday on two American bases in Iraq is just the start of Tehran's new offensive posture, according to Hajizadeh.

The military leader's remarks are a sign that Tehran has no interest in de-escalation following President Donald Trump's decision Wednesday to delay the launch of another U.S. attack on Iranian interests.

Iran says its goal is to remove every single American troop from the region through targeted strikes across the Middle East.

"We were not after killing anyone although tens of U.S. troops have likely been killed and wounded and were transferred to Israel and Jordan on nine sorties of C-130 flights," Hajizadeh was quoted as saying in the country's state-controlled press.



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Originally posted by gearhounds:
The black boxes have been wiped by this point- the criminal democrats are safe to start bowing, scraping, and apologizing again.

"They were wiped? You mean with a cloth or something?"

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Originally posted by braillediver:
The bodies of the dead will tell a story when given a chance.

Absolutely.

Iran can try to hide it but unless they destroy everything including the bodies, there is no chance on them succeeding.

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Originally posted by TigerDore:

"We were not after killing anyone although tens of U.S. troops have likely been killed and wounded and were transferred to Israel and Jordan on nine sorties of C-130 flights," Hajizadeh was quoted as saying in the country's state-controlled press.

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Uhh, yeah, propaganda.

And nothing would please the neo-cons and many in our government more than if Iran would continue to directly and blatantly attack us, because then we would have all the justification we would need to eradicate that regime for good. Iran doesn't have the balls though. They'll instead go back to their attacks through their proxies.

In this article you can plainly NOT see an Iranian front-loader that is categorically NOT clearing what is plainly NOT a piece of aircraft wreckage off the site...

https://www.news.com.au/travel...783aff33f8459397ab8d

As mentioned, the BBC's ME correspondent reports scavengers on the unsecured site picking and removing pieces of aircraft and the items belonging to the victims - shades of Ukraine....

demonstration video of Russian TOR M2 AntiAircraft System


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Y5DT4oPpc

Of course Iran is clearing out the site. They know exactly what happened. No investigation needed.

Saw the better video on news this morning oof the meteorite streaking upwards before it hit the plane.

Shocking science.

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Originally posted by Georgeair:
Saw the better video on news this morning oof the meteorite streaking upwards before it hit the plane.

Shocking science.

Link please.