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Ability to solve geometry and algebra problems = white privilege.

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October 25, 2017, 11:17 AM
Scoutmaster
Ability to solve geometry and algebra problems = white privilege.
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
This is just beyond stupid.


And yet many will believe it. Roll Eyes




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October 25, 2017, 11:33 AM
kdgrayson
So basically, she is mad at the universe. That she describes math as being "developed" suggests that she doesn't grasp the fundamental truth that math IS a (if not THE as it pertains to the physical world) fundamental truth, waiting to be discovered perhaps, existing since the beginning of time.
October 25, 2017, 11:39 AM
Sig2340


Then blackberry pie is racist.

I challenge her to show me a whiteberry pie.


I also challenge her to explain this Member of the Royal Society.


Courtesy of Srinivasa Ramanujan, Mathematician





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October 25, 2017, 12:16 PM
2BobTanner
quote:
Originally posted by mcrimm:
Are we NUTS?

"A math education professor at the University of Illinois says the ability to solve geometry and algebra problems and teaching such subjects perpetuates so-called white privilege.

Rochelle Gutierrez laid out her views on the subject in an article for a newly published anthology for math educators titled, “Building Support for Scholarly Practices in Mathematics Methods.”
h“School mathematics curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean Theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans," she says, according to Campus Reform.


She also says that addressing equity in mathematics education will come when teachers can understand and negotiate the politics outside the classroom.

“On many levels, mathematics itself operates as whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as white,” she writes.

Further, she says mathematics operates with unearned privilege in society, “just like whiteness.”

Mathematics itself operates as Whiteness.
- Rochelle Gutierrez

Gutierrez did not respond to an email from Fox News Tuesday seeking comment.

University of Illinois interim Provost John Wilkin told Fox News that Gutierrez is an established and admired scholar who has been published in many peer-reviewed publications.

“As with all of our faculty at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Prof. Gutierrez has the rights of academic freedom necessary to pursue scholarship and research on important subjects and to reach conclusions even if some might disagree with those conclusions,” he said.

He added, “The issues around equity and access in education are real – with significant implications to our entire educational system. Exploring challenging pedagogical questions is exactly what faculty in a world-class college of education should be doing.”

In the book Gutierrez points out that mathematics operates as a proxy for intelligence, but asks, “are we really that smart just because we do mathematics?”

“As researchers, are we more deserving of large grants because we focus on mathematics education and not social studies or English?”

'WITNESSING WHITENESS' INFLUENCING LESSONS FOR CHILDREN AT ST. LOUIS SCHOOL

Gutierrez says evaluations of math skills can perpetuate discrimination against minorities, especially if they do worse than their white counterparts, Campus Reform reported.

“If one is not viewed as mathematical, there will always be a sense of inferiority that can be summoned” because the average person won't necessarily question the role of mathematics in society, she writes.

According to the website, Gutierrez adds that there are so many people who “have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms… [where people are] judged by whether they can reason abstractly.”

NEW YORK PUBLIC COLLEGE OFFERING COURSE CALLED 'ABOLITION OF WHITENESS'

Her solution is a call for teachers to develop political "conocimeinto," or knowledge, to better prepare them in deciding on what learning opportunities work best for their students.

The book, published by Information Age Publishing, is a collaborative effort among more than 40 educators who teach mathematics methods courses for prospective pre-K‐12 teachers."

Link:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017...-professor-says.html


If teaching Math is perpetuating “white privilege”, then as a Math professor she is GUILTY of enabling her own enslavement, and the enslavement of all non-whites. So, is she going to start to burn Math books? Will she apologize for her actions? Will she pay herself her own reparations too?

The STUPID is strong in that one, indeed. Eek


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October 25, 2017, 12:20 PM
Orguss
I absolutely hate algebra but was a math god when it came to geometry and physics. So, yeah, let me jump on that "white privilege" train and declare algebra a heinous subject.



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October 25, 2017, 12:34 PM
Archie Teuthis
There are buildings in Central(Mayan)& South(Inca)America that display knowledge of math, geometry, trig, astronomy & calendars. Her ancestors are weeping.


Less is more.
October 25, 2017, 03:07 PM
Kravashera
quote:
Originally posted by mcrimm:
Are we NUTS?

"A math education professor..."



Oh, so not a trained sociologist or anthropologist with data to back up her crazy...



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October 25, 2017, 03:13 PM
JALLEN
Maybe it would help if legislatures would pass laws making things easier, like rounding off pi to 3.0, as was proposed by Illinois some years ago.




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October 25, 2017, 03:34 PM
flashguy
Being good at math (and several other subjects, like English) would not be a "white advantage" condition if more Blacks would take the trouble to learn it, instead of calling those who do "Uncle Tom" and "not enough Black". It's not the subject that confers "White Privilege"--it's the stupid resistance of Blacks to learn it.

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October 25, 2017, 03:37 PM
PASig
Wasn't Algebra developed by the Persians...IE not white people?


October 25, 2017, 04:48 PM
patw
I bet she holds a liberal arts degree. It is sad and amazing at how many "teachers and professors" think like this and are able to teach in schools. I guess Ben Carson should be offended because he rose up from poverty,learned what is available "to all to learn" and made something of himself. She is an idiot that is tearing down education not increasing student minds.
October 25, 2017, 05:22 PM
PD
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Wasn't Algebra developed by the Persians...IE not white people?


Persian = Caucasian
October 25, 2017, 05:39 PM
k5blazer
Jaime Escalante must be rolling in his grave.
October 25, 2017, 06:02 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by PD:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Wasn't Algebra developed by the Persians...IE not white people?


Persian = Caucasian
Persians are among those originally designated as "Aryan" (not the Johnny-come-latelies that the NAZIs meant)--those that migrated to the Indian subcontinent. And contrary to popular belief, Iranians/Persians are not Arabs, and they REALLY don't like to be identified as such.

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October 25, 2017, 06:22 PM
PR64
I just watched the movie Hidden Figures...

I don't know what to say.


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October 25, 2017, 10:11 PM
AZSigs
quote:
Read between the lines and what she is saying that non whites are too stupid to do math.

That's how I read it. Shameful.




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October 25, 2017, 11:22 PM
dcowboyscr
I guess she didn’t watch the movie Hidden Figures LOL.


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October 25, 2017, 11:58 PM
Cliff
quote:
Originally posted by AZSigs:
quote:
Read between the lines and what she is saying that non whites are too stupid to do math.

That's how I read it. Shameful.


Exactly what she is saying.



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October 26, 2017, 09:14 AM
rduckwor
Well, there must be a _____________ in my wood shed somewhere because I suck and higher mathematics.

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October 26, 2017, 09:18 AM
parabellum
Shit man, my math skills have atrophied to the point where if I'm subtracting numbers and the top number in the column is less than the bottom number, I don't know what to do. You're supposed to carry something from somewhere but damn if I know.

Forget algebra. Hell, I can't even balance a check book without a calculator.