This scheme also ensures that universities can continue to increase tuition costs and the Dems can continue to buy votes in perpetuity. Why are they not addressing high tuition costs to deal with the actual problem.

What's not fair is that I worked full-time while I was in college, including through breaks, and overtime in the summers. I picked a school that wasn't exactly what I wanted because they offered me some scholarships and a reasonable aid package, and a major that I knew could get me employment after graduation. I didn't party, didn't go on expensive trips, and had my loans paid off less than a year after graduation. Meanwhile, I watched classmates use student loan money out of their accounts to fund new cars, spring break trips, and juvenile shenanigans at school. And now those same lazy punks want to use my tax dollars to pay off their debt. That's entirely not fair.

Last three semesters of colllege I had to get student loans to pay for tuition, books, room, and board. I think the interest rate was only 1%, but still…it was a LOAN. Because I had taken it upon myself to work part-time at a pizza house, the government deemed it necessary to deny my application for BEOG/Pell grant, which I had been receiving from the get-go. My school was less than $5k per semester for everything, but that was still a lot of money in the early 80’s.

Those loans were paid off in less than 5 years after graduating, because I was raised to be a RESPONSIBLE adult. Pretty much unfuck ANYONE who thinks they’re ENTITLED to shirk their responsibility without consequences and ANYONE that thinks this is a good idea.

“Everything…EVERYTHING…the Left touches, it destroys” - Dennis Prager

During this suspension of payments and interest, I was able to pay off my student loans. Sorry Uncle Sam missed out on some interest from me. I didn't get the usual tax break for student loan interest though. Anyway, I am glad to be done with it.
As for the government taking from tax payers to pay off student loan debt... Nah that's terrible. 99% of what the government does with stolen money is terrible.

I’d tell this troll the same thing I tell everyone when I hear that something isn’t fair: Life isn’t fair. Suck it up or crawl in a hole and die.

The other thing they're not talking about...this isn't just going to use your and my tax dollars as a bailout for irresponsible lazy people, it's also going to drive up inflation just like the stimulus payments did. In an economy that's still reeling form their earlier stupidity. So we're going to get double-whammied...and not even have a stimulus check to show for it this time.

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this isn't just going to use your and my tax dollars as a bailout for irresponsible lazy people, it's also going to drive up inflation just like the stimulus payments did.

Yep.
But like Para, I think it's going down in the Supreme Ct.

Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey Challenges Student Loan Repayment Plan At SCOTUS
Feb 28, 2023

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. - In an effort to protect the Constitution and defend Missourians, Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey announced today that the United States Supreme Court heard his challenge to the Biden administration’s unilateral and unlawful discharge of hundreds of billions of dollars in student-loan debt. At stake is more than the massive $430 billion-plus impact on the federal budget—the case poses a major test for the separation of powers under the Constitution.
“As Attorney General, I will protect the Constitution, which involves fighting back against the crooked Biden bailout,” said Attorney General Bailey. “There is no such thing as cancelling a debt- there is only shifting who will bear its weight. As a combat veteran, I paid for my education in blood, sweat, and tears, so this unconstitutional redistribution of wealth is personal for me. It’s a slap in the face to every working American who made a different choice, and my office will use every legal tool at our disposal to halt any attempt by the Biden Administration to saddle Missourians with other people’s debt.”

Missouri’s lawsuit argues that creating a roughly half-trillion-dollar loan-cancellation program that extends to nearly all borrowers is a stunning exertion of power and a matter of great economic and political significance. The administration rests its argument on the Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students Act of 2003 (HEROES Act), a limited bill created for a different purpose.

The HEROES Act simply does not justify the Secretary’s sweeping creation of this discharge program. That Act was enacted shortly after the start of the Iraq War, primarily to ensure that active-duty military may pause their student-loan payments while serving our country. Every congressional finding supporting the Act focused on providing relief to people serving in the “military” for “our nation’s defense.” Congress gave no hint when adopting the HEROES Act that it intended to eliminate student loans, let alone the massive amount of debt canceled through this program. And no administration has used it to erase student-loan debt.

Before reaching the nation’s highest court, the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals had sided with the states and enjoined Biden’s unlawful bailout, holding that Missouri and its student loan servicing company, MOHELA, would be “negatively impacted” by the plan.

Joining Missouri in filing suit are the attorneys general of Arkansas, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, and South Carolina.

https://ago.mo.gov/home/news/2...yment-plan-at-scotus

This is basically a modern day version of that son of a bitch I hope he burns in hell LBJ buying the black vote with his war on poverty.

That's what the rats do best: exploit people.

If they forgive student loans, I want the money I paid back. I also want my back and knee health back from earning a GI Bill and the money that was paid to the schools from the GI Bill.

I agree with Dean Cain. The colors on that sign- it's merely coincidence that they are the colors of the Ukrainian flag. Nuuuuuthin' but coincidence. Yep.

https://twitter.com/RealDeanCa...5e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref

I can almost see the foam and spittle spraying from her mouth during that little speech.

Yesterday I was listening to a Conservative radio program covering arguments before SCOTUS on this case. They played an audio clip of an on-scene reporter giving a calm report, but I couldn't make out much of what he was saying because some loud noisy bitch was ranting in the background over a PA loudspeaker. Now I have a pretty good idea who it was.

My Dad co-signed for my student loan, but I worked nightshift in college and paid off my student loan.

Keep this in mind while watching Randi Weingarten's spasmodic bitch meltdown :

AFT head Randi Weingarten makes over $560,000 per year, 9 times average teacher salary, records show

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In 2019, Weingarten received a salary of $489,844 along with $74,392 in other compensation, bringing her total haul for the year to $564,236, according to the AFT's Internal Revenue Service Form 990 for that year, the most recent year available.

The median salary for public high school teachers was $62,870, as of May 2020, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). For preschool, elementary, middle, secondary, and special education teachers, the median salary was $58,550, according to the BLS.

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Notice Randi Weingarten's professionally printed student loan pin? Notice the professionally printed student loan sign on the lectern? The microphone and PA system? If they wanna help out with student loans they can donate some of her salary and take the money for the pins, signs, and microphones and put them towards paying off some of those loans.

If I were in any organization represented by this savage I'd be ashamed.

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This scheme also ensures that universities can continue to increase tuition costs and the Dems can continue to buy votes in perpetuity. Why are they not addressing high tuition costs to deal with the actual problem.

This guy gets it.
They DARE NOT question the institution of higher learning, this is one of their sacred cows that can do no wrong. Achieving tenure is a sanctified and venerated right....unless you refuse to preach THEIR message

Make universities and profs teach for free. See how they like it

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Make universities and profs teach for free. See how they like it

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Granted they get lots of time off, but their salaries are almost free. For example at a local four year college FULL Professor in business makes 65K. In the private sector his salary would be twice that.

ADMINISTRATORS AND UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS make the big buck.

I taught graduate and undergraduate courses for some time and just could not make a living.

Working in my own business I make four times the amount of a full Professor.

I paid for my four years of college and graduate school through loans and work. It has been paid off for some time.

THAT person reminds me of the young brat kids throwing a temper tantrum hissy fit at the Grocery or wallymart when Mom or Dad won't give in to their demands for a certain cereal, candy, toy, etc.
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Loon

The SCOTUS conservatives will cast their votes as determined by a studious analysis of the constitution, and, as necessary, relevant precedent.

The liberals will vote their liberal agenda, twisting the constitution and cherry picking precedent that can be construed as supporting it.

Her rant will influence none of those votes, and she knows it. Her purpose is to solidify her position with the AFT membership.

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From Elf.

"She's an angry elf".

I don't get the "everybody deserves to go to college" schtick. Not everyone should. A good portion of the students barely make it through high school. The ones that pay attention, apply themselves and try to excel, wind up getting scholarships, which I am totally fine with. They earned the right for a free education and are wanting to go into fields that will help the majority, unlike the idiots taking easy classes to say they have a degree and then whine about how high the price of education is. It's all so tiresome.

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