Nov 2020 seems a long way off, but this report discusses why January could be a busy month for DEM hopefuls

https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...y-here-s-why-n951776

January will mark the beginning of a cavalcade of Democratic presidential hopefuls who are preparing to officially launch their campaigns early in the new year, according to multiple advisers and aides working for the prospective candidates.

Running for president has become a two-year endeavor, and, even though everyone says they hate it, candidates invariably get sucked into the presidential primary-industrial complex and rush to Iowa and New Hampshire as quickly as possible, lest they get left behind.

The calculus that goes into that decision turns out to be pretty simple and comes down to one thing above all else: money. And lots of it.

Seeking the White House has never been more expensive, and some veteran Democrats estimate a candidate will need to raise $10 million to $15 million in the first quarter of 2019, and at least $50 million during the full year, to be seriously competitive once voters start actually casting ballots in early 2020.

DEM primary voting starts Feb 2020

Many potential Democratic candidates have circled January or early February on their calendars as the ideal launch window — early enough to try to raise an impressive amount of money in the first quarter of the year

I have an announcement on Jan. 12," Julian Castro, the former Obama Housing secretary, who is publicly exploring a presidential campaign, said on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday.

"I know I have to make up my mind, and I have to do it by January," former Vice President Joe Biden said earlier this year on CNN.

"Anything I might do politically is probably not something that I'll be making any news about before January," Mayor Pete Buttieig of South Bend, Indiana, said this month after announcing he won't run for re-election, potentially to make a bid for the presidency.

Meanwhile, Democratic Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Cory Booker of New Jersey and Kamala Harris of California are all also quietly preparing for potential campaign launches in early 2019, people close to them have said.

That follows roughly the same timing as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who started their famous 2008 primary brawl in late January and early February 2007, respectively.

January is likely to be crowded because it comes at the start of a financial quarter, which gives candidates the maximum amount of time to raise money before announcing their first fundraising haul at the end of the quarter in March

A lack of early fundraising strength can be a death knell for a candidate since donors both large and small look to bet on a winning candidate and are quick to drop perceived losers.

Money isn't everything in politics, but it's a lot. And a strong first quarter fundraising haul is one of the surest ways to demonstrate viability and strength, not just in the primary, but in the general election against President Trump.

I added "President"

Unexpectedly strong fundraising has helped underdog candidates like Obama in 2008 and Bernie Sanders in 2016 be taken seriously and vault to the top of the field.

For Democrats in 2020, the financial demands will be even higher and the need to raise funds even more urgent since large, expensive states like California and Texas have moved their primaries to just after the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina primaries. That makes California and Texas more important, creating incentives for candidates to invest more heavily and earlier there than they would have in previous years.

The Democratic National Committee has also moved up its national convention and will start conducting debates as early as June 2019 .

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Pretty motley crew for the most part, and predominantly very liberal. Bloomberg will likely jump in and throw a shit-ton of his own money at his campaign. Lots of anti-gun rhetoric ahead, I'm afraid.

The pissing matches that have already begun are hilarious.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/politic...eto-o-rourke-n951016

Political version of the Gong Show.

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Political version of the Gong Show.

With initial episodes filmed in Iowa.

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Nov 2020 seems a long way off,

In my opinion, there should be no -- that's it, NO -- campaigning prior to nine months before election day. The current pattern of starting nearly two years ahead is just tiring. Voters get tired of the constant blowharding and bickering, mudslinging, grandstanding, and bullsh*tting.

Beyond that, when someone gets voted in for a four-year job, it seems they spend the first year settling in, arranging staff and priorities, getting their feet on the ground and their ideas in motion. The second year is open for some progress. But then the third and fourth are spent trying to "get the job again," and are nearly ineffective. This business of campaigning for two years for a four-year job is wasteful and should stop.

But that's just my opinion.

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Edited, thanks to flashguy pointing out my badly-worded first sentence.

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But that's just my opinion.

Nope. Not just your opinion. I'm sick of it.

No campaigning until the year of the election should be allowed.

All states' primaries should be held on the same day (sometime in June or July).

Absolutely NO election results should be released until they are ALL tallied nationwide. This bullshit of telling the commies how many votes they need to find in the trunk of a '76 Buick need to end.

This will be fun to watch, each prog will be trying to outprog their competitors. I fully expect one to publically wish Mao was still alive....

One possible spin off is depending on how well they can motivate their base we might see a rise in riots and possible personal violence against Trump supporters.

Should be interesting, I for one hope that someone like Corry " I am Spartacus" booker moves into the lead. Maybe he will team up with SJ Lee.....

Pure comedy gold right there

If I didn’t get way too much junk mail already, I’d consider making a contribution of $1 to each of the Dims (via mail, no email address provided). I’ve read (but never tried) that a single small contribution gets you on their mailing list and causes them to spend far more than you gave them trying to solicit another contribution. Just a bad attitude, but...

^^^ Be careful what you wish for if you get charged for receiving texts. They'll either find your phone number or get it in a bag of "potential voters" in your neighborhood, verify that you've donated, and everyone in the DNC will bombard you with texts all the way up to and for some time after the election.

Why? Simple. It's not just all high-techy, and it doesn't just convey "a sense of immediacy" (among campaign marketers, that's a real thing, man). It's a lot cheaper, faster and less time-consuming than sending paper campaign materials and solicitations. Plus it only takes one campaign volunteer who has functional thumbs and fifteen seconds to waste to contact any number of people.

I guess what I'm saying is that someone cynical might find it better to send in a paper dollar with a fake name and a return address that corresponds to a vacant lot or a cemetery or something. Not that you'd do that, of course. And I'm sure that you certainly wouldn't do that multiple times. Or give them an entertainingly bogus phone number.

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Absolutely NO election results should be released until they are ALL tallied nationwide. This bullshit of telling the commies how many votes they need to find in the trunk of a '76 Buick need to end.

I'll agree!

vthoky wrote

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In my opinion, there should be no -- that's it, NO -- campaigning within nine months of election day.

I think he didn't write what he meant. I believe he meant that campaigning should be only within the 9 months prior to the election.

I agree. I also agree with Gustofer that all primaries should be held the same day and that in any election no results should be published until every poll is closed--nationwide. If that means it takes longer to find out who won, I can live with that. Rational people don't need instant gratification.

flashguy

Hopefully they'll all beat each other to a bloody pulp over the next two years.

The Dems are looking to go full retard in their nominating process, which will likely lead to a hard left candidate. This bodes well for Trump.

If there's a wildcard in this, I opens up an gap for an independent to run through.

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Hopefully they'll all beat each other to a bloody pulp over the next two years.

The Dems are looking to go full retard in their nominating process, which will likely lead to a hard left candidate. This bodes well for Trump.

If there's a wildcard in this, I opens up an gap for an independent to run through.

I can almost guarantee there will be a third party candidate running. Ross Perot kept Bush the senior from his second term. There are a lot of Trump haters on both ends of the political spectrum to warrant an attempt to dislodge Trump any way they can. Bloomberg would be on the short list because of his wealth in my opinion. We'll see, and I hope I'm wrong.

Jim

I agree on Bloomberg. He doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting the Democratic nod. But he could probably buy himself a pretty good showing in the general.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Hopefully they'll all beat each other to a bloody pulp over the next two years.

The Dems are looking to go full retard in their nominating process, which will likely lead to a hard left candidate. This bodes well for Trump.

If there's a wildcard in this, I opens up an gap for an independent to run through.

I can almost guarantee there will be a third party candidate running. Ross Perot kept Bush the senior from his second term. There are a lot of Trump haters on both ends of the political spectrum to warrant an attempt to dislodge Trump any way they can. Bloomberg would be on the short list because of his wealth in my opinion. We'll see, and I hope I'm wrong.

Jim

Maybe I'm missing something, but I find all of this exceptionally good news for us (which NBC conveniently ignored). If the Dem's end up with 15 or 20 nitwits running, donors are likely to sit on their cash waiting for the dominants to float to the surface. In the meantime, many of these America hating morons are going to be prostituting themselves, saying virtually anything, and reaping little to no money. Can't wait for the shit show to play out.

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Can't wait for the shit show to play out.

This.

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vthoky wrote

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In my opinion, there should be no -- that's it, NO -- campaigning within nine months of election day.

I think he didn't write what he meant. I believe he meant that campaigning should be only within the 9 months prior to the election.

Thank you, flashguy, you're correct. Can I blame that on posting-before-coffe?

I think I need to lay in a supply of popcorn....

flashguy

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Can't wait for the shit show to play out.

This.

Yep, it's going to be entertaining alright. Pivotal, but fun to watch.

Jim