Son of a bitch made it possible for Bill Clintoon to become president. R.I.H.
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July 09, 2019, 09:40 AM
chellim1
Henry Ross Perot
Born June 27, 1930 Texarkana, Texas Died July 9, 2019 (aged 89) Dallas, Texas
Henry Ross Perot (/pəˈroʊ/; June 27, 1930 – July 9, 2019) was an American business magnate, billionaire, philanthropist, and former politician. He was the founder and former chief executive officer of Electronic Data Systems and Perot Systems. He ran an independent presidential campaign in 1992 and a third party campaign in 1996, establishing the Reform Party in the latter election. Both campaigns were among the strongest presidential showings by a third party or independent candidate in U.S. history.
Born in Texarkana, Texas, he became a salesman for IBM after serving in the United States Navy. In 1962, he founded Electronic Data Systems, a data processing service company. In 1984, General Motors bought a controlling interest in the company for $2.4 billion. Perot established Perot Systems in 1988 and was an angel investor for NeXT, a computer company founded by Steve Jobs after he left Apple. Perot also became heavily involved in the Vietnam War POW/MIA issue, arguing that hundreds of American servicemen were left behind in Southeast Asia after the Vietnam War. During President George H. W. Bush's tenure, Perot became increasingly active in politics and strongly opposed the Gulf War and ratification of the North American Free Trade Agreement.
In 1992, Perot announced his intention to run for president and advocated a balanced budget, an end to the outsourcing of jobs, and the enactment of electronic direct democracy. A June 1992 Gallup poll showed Perot leading a three-way race against President Bush and presumptive Democratic nominee Bill Clinton. Perot briefly withdrew from the race in July, but re-entered the race in early October after he qualified for all 50 state ballots. He chose Admiral James Stockdale as his running mate and appeared in the 1992 CPD debates with Bush and Clinton. In the election, Perot won 18.9% of the popular vote but did not win any electoral votes. He won support from across the ideological and partisan spectrum, but performed best among self-described moderates. Perot ran for president again in 1996, establishing the Reform Party as a vehicle for his campaign. He won 8.4% of the popular vote against President Clinton and Republican nominee Bob Dole.
Perot did not seek public office again after 1996 and did not enter the 2000 Reform Party presidential primaries. He endorsed Republican George W. Bush over Reform nominee Pat Buchanan in the 2000 election and supported Republican Mitt Romney in 2008 and 2012. In 2009, Dell acquired Perot Systems for $3.9 billion. According to Forbes, Perot was the 167th richest person in the United States in 2016.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
July 09, 2019, 09:45 AM
RHINOWSO
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Originally posted by fpuhan: Son of a bitch made it possible for Bill Clintoon to become president. R.I.H.
When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw
July 09, 2019, 09:46 AM
12131
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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
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Originally posted by fpuhan: Son of a bitch made it possible for Bill Clintoon to become president. R.I.H.
He really didn't. Bush lost the race on his own.
Yup.
Q
July 09, 2019, 09:50 AM
chellim1
Ross Perot Nailed It On Free Trade In 1992
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
July 09, 2019, 09:50 AM
220-9er
Perot pulled a lot of moderate Democrats too. He did have a lot of good ideas but he wasn't the right messenger. He came off as too much of a loon at times.
Originally posted by fpuhan: Son of a bitch made it possible for Bill Clintoon to become president. R.I.H.
Wrong.
July 09, 2019, 09:52 AM
Sig2340
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Originally posted by fpuhan: Son of a bitch made it possible for Bill Clintoon to become president. R.I.H.
Mr. Perot took the action he believed necessary to rescue the United States of America from the corrupt political oligarchy of Democrats and Republicans. In many ways he was the 1992 election cycle Donald Trump.
He was the only candidate in my 60 years who talked seriously about fiscal conservatism. If more people had supported him the United States might not have a $22 TRILLION dollar debt today, a debt that cannot be repaid and therefore ensures our ultimate financial ruin.
He predicted NAFTA (and later its clone for the Pacific Rim) was a good old ass rape for American industry. Today we laud President Trump for renegotiating NAFTA. That might not have been necessary as I doubt Perot would have stayed with it from the start.
I salute you, Mr. H. Ross Perot, for your service to our country and the digital revolution you helped spark.
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
July 09, 2019, 09:54 AM
FlyingScot
Ex-EDS, Ross was a great businessman and patriotic American. Did not always agree and his presidential run was...not good. Does not take way from all he achieved.
Great American has passed.
“Forigive your enemy, but remember the bastard’s name.”
-Scottish proverb
July 09, 2019, 09:56 AM
Sig209
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Originally posted by fpuhan: Son of a bitch made it possible for Bill Clintoon to become president. R.I.H.
thats what he will always be remembered for IMO
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July 09, 2019, 10:00 AM
RHINOWSO
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Originally posted by Sig209:
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Originally posted by fpuhan: Son of a bitch made it possible for Bill Clintoon to become president. R.I.H.
thats what he will always be remembered for IMO
Except he didn't, LMFAO!
This is what lost it - "Read my lips, NO NEW TAXES" and keeping Dan Fucking Quayle as his running mate for round 2, when he should have dumped him.
July 09, 2019, 10:01 AM
rizzle
What I remember most back then was the battle with General Motors. Had a lot of respect for him, hard worker and very smart.
July 09, 2019, 10:17 AM
newtoSig765
He also arranged the rescue of his own people who were held in Iran during the hostage situation in the late 1970's, IIRC. I forget if it was before or after the US military's failed attempt.
At one point, he wanted to see how his people were doing, so he slipped into Iran, put on a disguise, and visited them in the prison they were held in.
The man was brilliant, and bold as brass. I admire him.
-------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken
I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18
July 09, 2019, 10:58 AM
smschulz
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Originally posted by FlyingScot: Ex-EDS, Ross was a great businessman and patriotic American. Did not always agree and his presidential run was...not good. Does not take way from all he achieved.
Great American has passed.
Exactly, Bush 41 probably would have lost anyway all on his own. RIP for a great man.
July 09, 2019, 11:01 AM
jhe888
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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
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Originally posted by fpuhan: Son of a bitch made it possible for Bill Clintoon to become president. R.I.H.
He really didn't. Bush lost the race on his own.
Ross certainly contributed to the loss, although I don't think you can blame him for it in full. (I know ya'll Bush-haters don't like to admit that.)
Ross was something else though. I liked him.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.
July 09, 2019, 11:05 AM
Dakor
RIP Sir.
July 09, 2019, 11:09 AM
Bisleyblackhawk
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Originally posted by fpuhan: Son of a bitch made it possible for Bill Clintoon to become president. R.I.H.
This ...he sucked votes off here in my state big time...our local news said it was the "Perot effect" and said it was good.
"we've gotta roll with the punches, learn to play all of our hunches Making the best of what ever comes our way Forget that blind ambition and learn to trust your intuition Plowing straight ahead come what may And theres a cowboy in the jungle" Jimmy Buffet
July 09, 2019, 11:09 AM
cne32507
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Originally posted by newtoSig765: He also arranged the rescue of his own people who were held in Iran during the hostage situation in the late 1970's, IIRC. I forget if it was before or after the US military's failed attempt.
At one point, he wanted to see how his people were doing, so he slipped into Iran, put on a disguise, and visited them in the prison they were held in.
The man was brilliant, and bold as brass. I admire him.
I read a book(?) about this. The employees were held hostage late in the shah's reign, and they were spirited out during the chaos of the overthrow. Seems the rebels broke open the jail to free their political comrades.
...he sucked votes off here in my state big time...our local news said it was the "Perot effect" and said it was good.