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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
as long as they stay in Mexico I really don't care what they do to themselves

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Originally posted by Bassamatic:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
as long as they stay in Mexico I really don't care what they do to themselves

Darn right.

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Originally posted by lbj:
That's not really a hunger strike then.

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Originally posted by lbj:
That's not really a hunger strike then.

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Originally posted by 911Boss:

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Originally posted by lbj:
That's not really a hunger strike then.

But it “identifies” as one...

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New "public charge" rules issued by the Trump administration expand the list of programs that are considered welfare, receipt of which may prevent a prospective immigrant from receiving lawful permanent residence (a green card). Analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies of the Census Bureau's Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP) shows welfare use by households headed by non-citizens is very high. The desire to reduce these rates among future immigrants is the primary justification for the rule change. Immigrant advocacy groups are right to worry that the high welfare use of non-citizens may impact the ability of some to receive green cards, though the actual impacts of the rules are unclear because they do not include all the benefits non-citizens receive on behalf of their children and many welfare programs are not included in the new rules. As welfare participation varies dramatically by education level, significantly reducing future welfare use rates would require public charge rules that take into consideration education levels and resulting income and likely welfare use.

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'Fear-based': Ammon Bundy criticizes Pres. Trump's anti-immigration rhetoric

PORTLAND, Ore. — Ammon Bundy, the leader of the 2016 occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, emerged as an unlikely critic of President Donald Trump this week.

Bundy led a 41-day occupation of the Oregon wildlife refuge in early 2016 in an effort to drum up support for Dwight and Steven Hammond. The father and son were convicted on federal arson charges after setting fire that spread on government-owned land near their ranch.

Pres. Trump pardoned the Hammonds earlier this year, saying they are "devoted family men, respected contributors to their local community and have widespread support from their neighbors, local law enforcement and farmers and ranchers across the West."

Bundy posted a 17-minute Facebook Live video Tuesday night, saying the president's anti-immigration rhetoric centered around the caravan of migrants seeking asylum at the US-Mexico border is "fear-based."

"To group them all up like our president has done, he has basically called them all criminals and said they're not coming here. It seems there has been this group stereotype," Bundy said.

Bundy added there "may be criminals" in the group but says the "conservative media reporting this is the way all of them are... that just doesn't appear to be the facts.

Bundy re-iterated he's supportive of asylum-seekers -- "fathers, mothers, children willing to go through the process to apply for asylum so they can come into this country and benefit from not being oppressed continually by criminals."

Bundy says every argument he has heard against the caravan has been based in fear; the prospect of terrorism or violence, or economic impacts, or even health issues.

"It's all fear-based and frankly, it's all selfishness, 'I'm going to lose something by them coming in.' I think that's incorrect ... to base your arguments or your motives or your actions upon fear is a very dangerous thing to do," Bundy said.