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A U.S. official said that while El Paso is closer than ports in Arizona and southern California, the route, spanning mountainous terrain, would be the most difficult for the nearest caravan to travel.

It is, in fact, the best (only?) pass through the mountains there, and the path north from there has been known as "El Jornada de Muerte" for hundreds of years now. Having said that, there's already a whole bunch of soldiers at Ft. Bliss (basically the north edge of El Paso).

Trump was just taking questions on the caravan from the no good media. Wow, that was something; he really gave them hell. I mean pointedly, he slammed them right to their faces. Bravo, Mr. President.

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THE TRUE HISTORY OF MILLSTONE BABIES
October 31, 2018

Having mastered fake news, now the media are trying out a little fake history.

In the news business, new topics are always popping up, from the Logan Act and the emoluments clause to North Korea. The all-star panels rush to Wikipedia, so they can pretend to be experts on things they knew nothing about an hour earlier.

Such is the case today with "anchor babies" and "birthright citizenship." People who know zilch about the history of the 14th Amendment are pontificating magnificently and completely falsely on the issue du jour.

If you'd like to be the smartest person at your next cocktail party by knowing the truth about the 14th Amendment, this is the column for you!

Of course the president can end the citizenship of "anchor babies" by executive order -- for the simple reason that no Supreme Court or U.S. Congress has ever conferred such a right.

It's just something everyone believes to be true.

How could anyone -- even a not-very-bright person -- imagine that granting citizenship to the children of illegal aliens is actually in our Constitution?

The first question would be: Why would they do that? It's like being accused of robbing a homeless person. WHY WOULD I?

The Supreme Court has stated -- repeatedly! -- that the "main object" of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment "was to settle the question ... as to the citizenship of free negroes," making them "citizens of the United States and of the state in which they reside."

Democrats, the entire media and House Speaker Paul Ryan seem to have forgotten the Civil War. They believe that, immediately after a war that ended slavery, Americans rose up as one and demanded that the children of illegals be granted citizenship!

You know what's really bothering me? If someone comes into the country illegally and has a kid, that kid should be an American citizen!



YOU MEAN THAT'S NOT ALREADY IN THE CONSTITUTION?

Give me a scenario -- just one scenario -- where the post-Civil War amendments would be intended to grant citizenship to the kids of Chinese ladies flying to birthing hospitals in California, or pregnant Latin Americans sneaking across the border in the back of flatbed trucks.

You can make it up. It doesn't have to be a true scenario. Any scenario!

As the court has explained again and again and again:

"(N)o one can fail to be impressed with the one pervading purpose found in (the 13th, 14th and 15th) amendments, lying at the foundation of each, and without which none of them would have been even suggested; we mean the freedom of the slave race, the security and firm establishment of that freedom, and the protection of the newly made freeman and citizen from the oppressions of those who had formerly exercised unlimited dominion over him."

That's why the amendment refers to people who are "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States "and of the state wherein they reside." For generations, African-Americans were domiciled in this country. The only reason they weren't citizens was because of slavery, which the country had just fought a civil war to end.

The 14th Amendment fixed that.

The amendment didn't even make Indians citizens. Why? Because it was about freed slaves. Sixteen years after the 14th Amendment was ratified, the Supreme Court held that an American Indian, John Elk, was not a citizen, despite having been born here.

Instead, Congress had to pass a separate law making Indians citizens, which it did, more than half a century after the adoption of the 14th Amendment. (It's easy to miss -- the law is titled: "THE INDIAN CITIZENSHIP ACT OF 1924.") Why would such a law be necessary if simply being born in the U.S. was enough to confer citizenship?

Even today, the children of diplomats and foreign ministers are not granted citizenship on the basis of being born here.

President Trump, unlike his critics, honors black history by recognizing that the whole purpose of the Civil War amendments was to guarantee the rights of freed slaves.

But the left has always been bored with black people. If they start gassing on about "civil rights," you can be sure it will be about transgenders, the abortion ladies or illegal aliens. Liberals can never seem to remember the people whose ancestors were brought here as slaves, i.e., the only reason we even have civil rights laws.

Still, it requires breathtaking audacity to use the Civil War amendments to bring in cheap foreign labor, which drives down the wages of African-Americans -- the very people the amendments were written to protect!

Whether the children born to legal immigrants are citizens is controversial enough. But at least there's a Supreme Court decision claiming that they are -- U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark. That's "birthright citizenship."

It's something else entirely to claim that an illegal alien, subject to deportation, can drop a baby and suddenly claim to be the parent of a "citizen."

This crackpot notion was concocted by liberal zealot Justice William Brennan and slipped into a footnote as dicta in a 1982 case. "Dicta" means it was not the ruling of the court, just a random aside, with zero legal significance.

Left-wing activists seized on Brennan's aside and browbeat everyone into believing that anchor babies are part of our great constitutional heritage, emerging straight from the pen of James Madison.

No Supreme Court has ever held that children born to illegal aliens are citizens. No Congress has deliberated and decided to grant that right. It's a made-up right, grounded only in the smoke and mirrors around Justice Brennan's 1982 footnote.

Obviously, it would be better if Congress passed a law clearly stating that children born to illegals are not citizens. (Trump won't be president forever!) But until that happens, the president of the United States is not required to continue a ridiculous practice that has absolutely no basis in law.

It's often said that journalism is the first draft of history. As we now see, fake news is the first draft of fake history.

COPYRIGHT 2018 ANN COULTER

Caravan is at Sayula De Aleman





https://www.usatoday.com/story...ps-shoot/1864581002/

Our daughter was born in Germany, while I/we were stationed there. Under prevailing rules at the time, she could choose her citizenship. American or German. She chose USA citizenship. At the time she could not have both. The stupid law that made multiple citizenships legal was just that, STUPID!

Personally, I see no justification for multiple citizenships! Make you choice and LIVE WITH IT!

I recall reading and seeing pictures of people going through customs with a freaking stack of passports! What a crock!

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Originally posted by sdy:
Caravan is at Sayula De Aleman

A little stop in Veracruz for some fun and sun with party money from Beto.

Who/What is this Nexus Services who is advocating for migrants trying to get in the country. Evidently in DC.

Link to original video: https://youtu.be/nASaF1o0rmM

^^^ Heh, heh, heh - for some reason I get a kick out of that - "KGB TV".

Well, I guess I've found an answer to my question as to why they didn't (initially) head north to pick up the main highway headed towards the U.S.

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The Latest: Caravan Splinters As It Heads Through Mexico
Associated Press, 11/4/2018

4:25 PM

Members of the 4,000-strong caravan of Central American migrants winding their way toward the U.S. border lambasted Mexican officials for directing them northward through the Gulf Coast state of Veracruz, calling it "the route of death."

The group said in a statement that some migrants branched off on their own Saturday in the belief that they were near the metropolises of Puebla and Mexico City, where they aimed to rest and receive medical attention after three weeks on the road.

A trek via the sugar fields and fruit groves of Veracruz takes the travelers through a state where hundreds of migrants have disappeared in recent years, falling prey to kidnappers looking for ransom payments.

Authorities in Veracruz said in September they had discovered remains from at least 174 people buried in clandestine graves. Some security experts have questioned whether those bodies belonged to migrants.

Veracruz Gov. Miguel Angel Yunes reneged on a Friday offer to provide buses to leapfrog the migrants to the Mexican capital or some other destination.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/late...ashed-154426637.html

So, after Tuesday’s election, what are the odds that we won’t hear anymore about this?

I would think we'll continue to hear so long as they get closer and /or increase numbers. We just won't hear it at every campaign rally.

Well, we're down to 4,000 from 7,000 and they haven't gotten more than 315 miles into Mexico yet. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

That picture of them crossing the river reminded me of other animal river crossings. Maybe we need a deterrent

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So, after Tuesday’s election, what are the odds that we won’t hear anymore about this?

Oh, I think it'll linger. I can see there being massive encampments just across the border, and continual coverage of the "refugee crisis". And one can't let a serious crisis got to waste, can one?

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Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
So, after Tuesday’s election, what are the odds that we won’t hear anymore about this?

Last week, Rush mentioned that if and when the Republicans win, the caravan will stop. He might be right, we'll see.

"...in the belief that they were near metropolises..."

Are you fucking kidding me? I mean, none of them--4 goddamn thousand of them--have a fucking map or sense enough to stop anyjuan on the road and say donde estamos?? Mexico has no signs? None of the undoubtedly dozens of reporters swarming their caravan day and night has a GPS?

Jesucristo!

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Originally posted by oddball:

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Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
So, after Tuesday’s election, what are the odds that we won’t hear anymore about this?

Last week, Rush mentioned that if and when the Republicans win, the caravan will stop. He might be right, we'll see.

Well yeah, because the money will dry up.

Nile Crocodiles have been found in Florida. Maybe some need to be relocated to the Rio Grande, and allowed to breed.

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That picture of them crossing the river reminded me of other animal river crossings. Maybe we need a deterrent

Caravan is in Cordoba, Mexico



https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.61202063f8d4

Thousands of bone-tired Central Americans set their sights on Mexico City on Sunday, after undertaking a grueling journey through a part of Mexico that has been particularly treacherous for migrants seeking to get to the United States.

The majority of the roughly 4,000 migrants streamed into the town of Cordoba in the Gulf coast state of Veracruz, a gateway to the central part of the country 124 miles from their previous stop. The day’s trek was one of the longest yet, as the exhausted migrants tried to make progress walking and hitching rides toward the U.S. border still hundreds of miles away.

It is unclear what part of the U.S. border they will aim for eventually, but their latest overnight stay in Veracruz could be one of their last before they head to Mexico City, a potential launching spot for a broader array of destinations.

In the capital, they may also receive additional support, although Mexican officials have appeared conflicted over whether to help or hinder their journey.

Manuel Calderon, 43, a migrant from El Salvador, knew many miles lay ahead and said he wanted to “speed up the pace.” He said he was fleeing violence in his home country and had dreams of making it back to the U.S., from which he was deported a little more than two years ago.

On the road, he was greeted by ordinary Mexicans lending a hand. Catalina Munoz said she bought tortillas on credit to assemble tacos of beans, cheese and rice when she heard the migrant caravan would pass through Benemerito Juarez, her tiny town of 3,000 inhabitants. She gathered 15 others to help make the tacos, fill water bottles and carry fruit to weary travelers on the roadside.

As migrants began filing into a sports complex in Cordoba, others had already hopped freight trucks to Puebla and even Mexico City. A few arrived at a large outdoor stadium in the capital and lounged on bleachers a day after divisions beset the ranks of the caravan over which route to take.

“We think that it is better to continue together with the caravan. We are going to stay with it and respect the organizers,” said Luis Euseda, a 32-year-old from Tegucigalpa, Honduras, traveling with his wife, Jessica Fugon. “Others went ahead, maybe they have no goal, but we do have a goal and it is to arrive.”

Mexico faces the unprecedented situation of having three migrant caravans stretched over 300 miles (500 kilometers) of highway in the states of Chiapas, Oaxaca and Veracruz.

On Friday, a caravan from El Salvador waded over the Suchiate River into Mexico, bringing around 1,000 people who want to reach the U.S. border. That caravan initially tried to cross the bridge between Guatemala and Mexico, but Mexican authorities told them they would have to show passports and visas and enter in groups of 50 for processing.

Another caravan, also of about 1,000 people, entered Mexico early in the past week. That group includes Hondurans, Salvadorans and some Guatemalans.

The first, and largest, group of mainly Honduran migrants entered Mexico on Oct. 19.