I'll be out there in a few weeks to meet up with some friends.

Will be contributing some funds to their new found freedoms and burn a little or a LOT

Hopefully I don't OD on the pots or find myself unable to fight off a certain urge to do heroin or meth.....fucking A man. I'm paranoid already.

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Originally posted by heatinajeep:
I'll be out there in a few weeks to meet up with some friends.

Will be contributing some funds to their new found freedoms and burn a little or a LOT

Hopefully I don't OD on the pots or find myself unable to fight off a certain urge to do heroin or meth.....fucking A man. I'm paranoid already.

Lookout! Just mentioning that you might possibly be in the same room as the maryjaywanna could get the BATFE to flatten your house with a tank, shoot your dog, and then send you to prison for eleventy billion years, where you belong, you dirty doper dirtball hippie! Also you'll be raped in prison. You also deserve that.

I believe I read that there is a $600 fine if caught partaking in public or in a hotel/casino. It's allowed in your home.

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Originally posted by Jeff Yarchin:
I believe I read that there is a $600 fine if caught partaking in public or in a hotel/casino. It's allowed in your home.

This would be easy to circumvent. Combustion - doing a j, smoking a bowl causes a lot of smoke/smell. Somebody doing such is risking exposure and an unseasoned stoner.

Vaping some oil - less odor and "smoke/vapor" than somebody tokin on their E-cig. Not to mention edibles, which will readily available too.

It's tax revenue. Want a nicer airport when you fly into Vegas for SHOT? This will pay for it. How about better infrastructure getting around the Strip? Yup, that too. How about an expansion to the best local government sponsored shooting range in the country? I can see the 500 yard range already.

Small amounts of pot have been decriminalized in Vegas for years. You probably didn't even know about it the last time you were because most people just keep to themselves. I grew up in Nevada -- it's the ultimate MYOB state. Do what you want to do so long as you don't disturb others. It's night and day compared to the East Coast where everyone seems to be offended, oppressed, and opinionated. Legalizing pot will just make things a bit safer and allow enforcement to focus on more important things such as driving while on a cell phone, which kills 3,500+ people per year.

And in my professional experience and opinion, marijuana is not a gateway drug. In fact, just the opposite -- most marijuana users stop at pot and are quite opposed to anything harder. What appears to be a gateway drug is prescription opioids -- and the gateway is usually to increasingly stronger opioids. It starts with a back or knee injury and a prescription, and ends with one hell of an addiction. I've seen people go in two or three years from being moderately productive members of society to almost never leaving their house.

Just like with gun laws, it takes an understanding of the root causes to have an informed perspective. Otherwise it's no better than a knee jerk reactions of "guns only kill people," "it's for the children," and "if it saves just one life."

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Originally posted by flashguy:
Sounds to me like an excellent reason to never visit that city again. I've been there several times--I can do without another.

flashguy

I've been visiting LV with less frequency, but it's mainly due to those hotel assholes' outlandish resort and parking fees bullshit. And that F pot smell gives me a headache.

In poker parlance, and an attempt to be punny, they're "pot committed", and waiting for an inside straight flush, on the river, and have been bluffing their asses off for decades.

But everyone else knows, that sort of strategy without any substance only gets you so far, and their lucky streak built upon deceit and nonsense is finally, slowly, coming to an end.

They've just about run out of chips, as they continue to limp along hoping for a miracle, while everyone else at the table watches with annoyed amusement for the POV to implode.

They'll either blind out eventually or go all-in and lose in a spectacular manner, but they'll lose either way, that much is certain. It's simply a matter of time, at this juncture.

More to the point, I haven't seen anything about pot store needing to keep records on their buyers. If they pay cash, no one should know who they are.

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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
Just curious though, when the pot store starts recording buyers and ATF gets those records, will users find themselves afoul of federal gun laws?

4473s are not digitized, even if they could get the buyer records from the pot shops, it would be a tremendous amount of work to pull and cross reference such a list against each 4473.

BATFE did modify 4473s to state that MJ is still federally illegal, despite removal of state-based restrictions.

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Originally posted by cmr076:
people still believe that shit??

Yes. I do.

flashguy

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by cmr076:
people still believe that shit??

Yes. I do.

flashguy

Just because you agree with the lie, doesn't make it any less of a lie.

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Originally posted by airsoft guy:

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by cmr076:
people still believe that shit??

Yes. I do.

flashguy

Just because you agree with the lie, doesn't make it any less of a lie.

Just because you say it's a lie doesn't make it one.

flashguy

So are there now eight states the have authorized legal pot (not all have implemented it yet.) The snowball is getting bigger.

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Originally posted by heatinajeep:
I'll be out there in a few weeks to meet up with some friends.

Will be contributing some funds to their new found freedoms and burn a little or a LOT

Hopefully I don't OD on the pots or find myself unable to fight off a certain urge to do heroin or meth.....fucking A man. I'm paranoid already.

You should also ride a wheelie on your motorcycle while filming it with your drone. Heads will explode around here.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
So are there now eight states the have authorized legal pot (not all have implemented it yet.) The snowball is getting bigger.

As of now, there are only 3 states who have not at least decriminalized possession (Kansas, Idaho, and South Dakota) and within whose borders it is the same illegal as Federal laws. It's an often overlooked yet important point. A mere *3* of 50 states (not even counting US territories) actually follow Federal Law on the matter fully. 3... of 50... neither of which is in typical staunchly conservative areas like the deep south - *all* of whom have already started to change.

Of the remaining *47* States who all have policies and laws regarding cannabis in direct contradiction of Federal Law:

Both recreational and medicinal marijuana has been legalized in the states of Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington.

The District of Columbia has fully legalized recreational and medical marijuana, but recreational commercial sale is currently blocked by Congress.

Twelve states have both medical marijuana and decriminalization laws (three of them being CBD only).

Thirteen states, Guam, and Puerto Rico have legalized psychoactive (non CBD) medical marijuana.

Another thirteen have only legalized non-psychoactive (CBD) medical marijuana.

One state and the U.S. Virgin Islands have only decriminalized possession laws.

The "snowball" is enormous, happening in 47 of our 50 states, and all but unstoppable.

The only real problem is the lack of testicular fortitude and honesty within Congress, which is why the current and absurd classification remains. The alcohol industry lobbies against it, too. It and only it (the classification) is the root problem of all things marijuana in this country. One day people will wake the fuck up and right this colossal wrong. Until then, the States will have to continue fixing the Fed's monumental fuck up and nonsense.

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by airsoft guy:

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by cmr076:
people still believe that shit??

Yes. I do.

flashguy

Just because you agree with the lie, doesn't make it any less of a lie.

Just because you say it's a lie doesn't make it one.

flashguy

Millions of folks in this country haven't turned into burnout junkies, living on the fringes of society, ready to rape and murder for their next hit, like some pulp-crime novel, after partaking. Millions. Bud is no more a "gateway drug" than Budweiser. The sooner people figure that out, the sooner we can focus on real problems.

People believe what they want to believe.

BUT people also don't believe what they don't want to believe.

I had an interesting discussion with a coworker, how adiment he was that making pot legal would lower the crime rate. He'd heard it so many times he knew it was true. Though maybe he wasn't sure why.

When I explained that making murder legal would also lower the crime rate, he was a bit confused.
I tried explaining that is they made everything legal, the crime rate would drop to 0%. That also puzzled him.


My experience with pot smokers of any level is they have no perspective. They swear there's been no down side for them, despite what others see. Just like many of you.

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Originally posted by msfzoe:
Terrible idea.
Entry level drug to who knows what.

Oooh can I guess?

Blood in the streets?
Increased robberies to pay for their munchies?
Meth?
Heroin?

Likely just lead to a tiny bit more laziness and slight delays at fast food restaurants.

SO the great social experiment has begun.

We could look at this a modern day end to prohibition where the pendulum will swing heavily in the direction of over-usage before settling to center.

One of the problems I have read, and heard from two brothers who live there, are the amounts of petty crime and pan handling in the Denver area. Really bad in the warmer months, not so bad in the winter. Forecasting this out to a warmer area such as Las Vegas, this will be more out of control than now with an expectant rise in car break-ins.

A big issue I see in California are the mush-brain stoners. These are not the ones who might smoke some before a concert or other show, limiting use to weekends, these are the ones stoned from the moment they get off from work until they arrive back.

Not necessarily "lazy" but definitely unable to focus (ZERO attention to detail) or think in concrete ideas but great with the abstract thinking. That is, stoners might make great gardeners but I DO NOT trust them to work on your car.