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parati et volentes |
Don't get hung up on Sordin's "low" NRR compared to other brands. There is a lot of fudging in the hearing protection industry when it comes to NRR. To get a true picture you need to look at the charts. Jere is a link that helps explain things. https://trevoronthetrigger.wor...ding-nrr18db-rating/ | |||
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Interesting article . Tears apart all of the thinking about products like Decibel Defense rated at 37 NRR ( passive muffs) Back to square one for my thinking . Thanks for the link . | |||
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I have and have had several types and brands of electronic earmuffs. I almost never use them. My issue is they're just not very good earmuffs. (electronics aside I mean) Even turned off they're not nearly as good as what I prefer to use instead. Shooting, I'm plugs and muffs 95% of the time. | |||
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CAS, what do you choose to use ? | |||
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I've own two MSA Sordin Pro-X's and I've got zero complaints. I know some deployed guys complained about sizing or, comfortabilty of the gel ear cups, however a bit of perspective was needed...when you're operating daily, month-after-month in temps above 95F.  Not sure how far technology has evolved, other than the overall price of electronic ear pro has come down. Would be interested in seeing what this new generation of ear pro from Otto, Sig and others brings to the table. | |||
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| It's pronounced just the way it's spelled |
I use Peltor Tactical Pros outdoors, and foam earplugs plus passive muffs over them indoors (I also use that combo when shooting rifles at the range). I’ve tried the AVG electronic earbuds, but I can’t get them to seal / stay in, and had a high pitched sound like a microphone feedback the second time I tried to use them. I also tried the Sordins, but couldn’t get them to fit over my big head. The Peltors are great, aside from heat & sweat issues out here in AZ. | |||
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Casuistic Thinker and Daoist |
My first pair were so old they were still analog. The pair that just "gave up the ghost" was indeed the battery compartment issue. They were less than a year old when the issue first came up. I sent them in under warranty and the came back fixed. About a year later it was the same problem again. First the buzzing, than the cutting out, and finally just dying...put in new batteries and just nothing I considered getting them fixed again, because they are really comfortable and seal very well, but decided to see what the newest technology offer. That research lead me to the Peltor Tac 500. At close to only a third what another pair of Sordins cost, I figured it was worth a try. I just (like yesterday) received the battery pack that they were really designed to use and haven't had a chance to try them yet The Tac 500 headband adjustment isn't as well engineered as Sordins...the cups slide on the metal hangers. Also the headband isn't padded and the plastic can be a bit sharp...so I'll either take some sandpaper to the sharp edges or get a cover for the band No, Daoism isn't a religion | |||
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I shoot a lot of pistol matches and I am a match director and Safety Officer so I am up close and personal to 1,000's of rounds for hours at a time. For what I do, it is a major benefit to be able to carry on a conversation (running shooters) while gunfire is going on around me. Comfort is also important when wearing them non-stop for hours at a time. I have MSA Sordin's and absolutely love them. They are so comfortable for me and work so well for conversation, that I generally am not even aware that I am wearing them. I have had times when tearing down a match that someone will say why do you still have your ear pro on. The only issue that I have with them is that there are times that I would like to wear a wide brim hat at summer matches and the headband prevents this. Sordin does make a model with a fabric headband across the top of the head and the metal band around the back of the head which allows wearing a brimmed hat. Some folks who primarily shoot rifles may find that a slimmer style ear pro or in ear ear pro would be better for their use to allow proper cheek weld. | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
The same can be said of those who shoot shotguns a lot, and I'm one of those. I shoot skeet or sporting clays every week and the muff types interfere with the way I shoot. So, I use Walkers Silencers. They're ITC hearing protection and work very well, well enough that even when I'm BSing between rounds of shooting, I still leave them in for two reasons: They're comfortable and they're amplified.  https://www.walkersgameear.com/silencer-bt-2-0/ | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head  |
Thanks for the follow-up. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the Peltor Tac 500 once you've had a chance to try them out on the range. | |||
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blame canada |
I've had howard Leight, and several peltors of various mid & low range quality. I recently picked up a set of ops core amp electronic muffs. AMAZING. I'll never go back. Now I need a pair for my wife. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Big ol' Mickey mouse muffs with the highest rating I can find, with good foam ear plugs under them. | |||
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| Freethinker |
That is the version I have that I originally got to wear with a helmet. Now they work just as well with other hats. ► 6.4/93.6 | |||
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