August 19, 2021, 08:13 PM
goose5Noise cancelling devices?
I have a pair of Bose QC20 headphones. I took them to work today to see if I could use them instead of earplugs. I probably could for about 80 percent of what goes on. If I or someone else spent a good amount of time with a hard grinding wheel I'd probably have to switch back to plugs. Now the headphones won't fit under my hood so how do the earbuds with noise cancellation stack up against the headphones?
August 20, 2021, 12:13 AM
mcrimmI replaced my Bose QC20 set with Apple AirPod Pros 2 years ago for mowing and the like. Love ‘em. They won’t make 8 hours on a charge though.
August 20, 2021, 04:57 AM
Powers77My only similar experience (loud noise environment) is both types mowing. The over the ear work much better there. At the gym the in ear work fine. So the type of noise makes some difference.
August 20, 2021, 05:00 AM
Powers77quote:
Originally posted by Powers77:
My only similar experience (loud noise environment) is both types mowing. The over the ear work much better there. At the gym the in ear work fine. So the type of noise makes some difference.
Just reread mc's post. Need to rerun my mowing experiment. Perhaps I didn't get a proper seal or something.
August 20, 2021, 05:27 AM
mark123I’m assuming that you’re wanting to listen to something and not just using them as silencers. If that’s the case, the only solution that I’ve found that works for me is ear plugs and bone conducting headphones.
I use Flents -33dB plugs and
Aftershokz Air. I’m considering getting some pro plugs fitted next.
August 20, 2021, 06:51 AM
bobtheelfNoise cancelling headphones are not hearing protection. Other than the passive blocking of sound pressure they'll do nothing to protect your ears.
Around the ear tends to block more sound than in-ear.
August 20, 2021, 07:39 AM
mark123quote:
Originally posted by bobtheelf:
… Around the ear tends to block more sound than in-ear.
My experience is the opposite.
August 20, 2021, 08:33 AM
goose5quote:
Originally posted by mark123:
I’m assuming that you’re wanting to listen to something and not just using them as silencers. If that’s the case, the only solution that I’ve found that works for me is ear plugs and bone conducting headphones.
I use Flents -33dB plugs and
Aftershokz Air. I’m considering getting some pro plugs fitted next.
That is probably what I'm going to do. It's half the price too. Just had to noodle this around before deciding.
August 20, 2021, 08:38 AM
sns3guppyNoise cancelling in-ear devices or headphones impact a narrow frequency range, and offer little actual hearing protection. You will have the illusion of hearing protection, however, and if you're using the device for communication or listening to music, it will exclude perceived sound, making it easier to hear. It doesn't mean you're being protected from ambient noise.
I use an expensive Bose aviation headset in the cockpit, not because it protects my hearing, but because it enables me to better understand foreign communications. I don't hear two sounds well, at the same time, so someone talking, especially with a foreign accent, is often hard for me to understand. Active noise reduction helps that, and enables me to focus on the voice and exclude some of the perceived background noise. I have to wear one earpiece in, the other out, to communicate with the guy sitting next to me, and others on the flight deck...so one ear is always exposed to the noise. Its' the same if I wear an over-the-ear headset; one ear cup is cocked behind the ear, the other over the ear.
The best hearing protection you can get for in-ear will be foam ear plugs. The best hearing protection you can get is over the ear; the ear cups reduce sound waves impacting the bone around the ear (which transmits sound to the inner ear), as well as reducing the level at the ear canal. Better yet is a foam in-ear plug with over-the-ear protection in addition.
Active noise reduction is used in some headsets with either a passive state until a decibel threshold is reached (gunshot, for example), or audio enhancement (mic/speaker) to enable hearing until a loud noise. Handy for hearing range commands, or an instructor, etc. Not nearly the protection that most wearers think.
If there's any loss of seal with any kind of active noise reduction, the effect on the ANR is substantial, and any element of noise protection is significantly reduced. It's important to understand the difference between what you perceive as reduced noise as the wearer of the device, and the level of protection that the device offers; the two are very different. The perception of reduced noise may encourage you to expose yourself to sound that can damage hearing, while you feel protected. It's insidious.
Active noise reduction can reduce fatigue, especially over long periods. Just be aware of is limitations.