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Survivor the show has demonstrated the winning strategy. (Although I haven’t watched it in at least 10 years.)

Everyone knows you form alliances that mutually beneficial and you break them when it’s to your advantage.

In this second version of Trump, he has formed coalitions with people with divergent but aligned goals but everybody knows where everybody stands. In his first administration, there were several who paid lip service to being on the Trump train but were really looking for opportunities to derail it.

Even if Elon is a socialist, he is far away from being able to promote a socialist agenda.



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"A leopard can't change his spots"

Tell that to Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump. They were both democrats you know. And, you post an eight year old comment to support your position?

Elon Musk paid a lot of money (probably too much) so conservatives could have a place on social media to go and speak freely without getting booted. I also happen to feel that he was instrumental in helping Trump get elected. It's his house, his rules, you don't like it, leave.

Good Grief.



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I tell ya what, I don’t think many would call him a savior. But, let’s see how he does compared to what we just had. If he’s anything from comparable to less than, you won’t have a problem convincing any forum member to get rid of him.

However, no one is going to agree with everything you think, as I’ve said before, if they do, they’re lying.





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The post is Jun 16, 2018. You still think he's a socialist, the bad kind?


Key point...

Most, if not all, forms of governing work at their base principals. Yes, even socialism.

It's the distortion, greed, greed of power, greed of money, etc. that fucks them up.

A better question to ask of Elon is: Is he a good man at heart?


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The algorithm change has not been made as he's talking about the future. People aren't getting clicks because it's not interesting enough to click on some social media blowhard whining about not getting clicks. Here is Musk's post from 7 hours ago:
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1875788248792068357




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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
"A leopard can't change his spots"

Tell that to Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump. They were both democrats you know. And, you post an eight year old comment to support your position?

Elon Musk paid a lot of money (probably too much) so conservatives could have a place on social media to go and speak freely without getting booted. I also happen to feel that he was instrumental in helping Trump get elected. It's his house, his rules, you don't like it, leave.

Good Grief.

You nailed it Bassamatic.



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Yea, not so much after the last couple days of boosting only "verified" accounts or "positive interactions" and encouraging "user-unregretted" impressions.
You do realize, I hope, that the only people this really affects are verified users who've monetized their accounts, right?

IOW: They're bitching because it's going to affect their "Elon bucks."

X is still as un-censored, as much a free speech platform as it was last week, and the week before, and the week before that, and...

I suspect there are two reasons for doing this: To attract more advertisers, because advertisers like to advertise in positive environments, and to help fend off the world-wide attempts to impose censorship on X—particularly in the EU and the UK.

<checks analytics...>

My Impressions, Engagement rate, and Engagements are all up. I've made precisely zero changes in my posting/reply behavior since the changes in question were made.

A little over 1/4 of my followers are verified.

I do not monetize my account. I don't (yet) qualify. I don't really care. That's not why I'm there.
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I don't have a Twitter account.
If you truly value free speech: You should, IMO.

Right now Elon Musk and X are probably doing more for free speech, world-wide, than any other single entity—bar none. And I do not believe that to be an exaggeration in the slightest.

Plus Grok rocks Smile



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Sigolicious, how’s the homestead coming? I was following your old thread, but it hasn’t been updated in quite some time.



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In my opinion (worth exactly what you paid for it), I certainly hope that Trump keeps him on a short leash.

Yes, we are all thankful that he bought Twitter and that he was instrumental at getting Trump elected (by that act and others), but some of the things that he's said lately give me pause.

He was spouting off a week or two ago about going after Congressmen who don't go along with the administration. Not one of us here likes it when Soros, Bezos, Gates, and Zuckerberg use their money to influence elections, and not one of us here should like or accept it when Musk threatens the same thing. Yes, I know, "But he's on OUR side!". I don't care. Two wrongs don't make a right. The (unelected) richest men in the world should not be making the decisions that affect us all, regardless of which side they are on.

He seems like a good guy, if not a bit kooky, and I'm thankful for what he's done for the cause (leveling the playing field with Twitter), but yeah...short leash.


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Originally posted by PASig:
Who said he was a savior? The guy spent 40 billion of his own money so we could have one platform not censored and controlled by the Left and that’s good enough for me.


And his clear comment on JRE that totally connected, explaining that the open border is the end of a two party system guaranteeing woke democrat socialist leadership for all of eternity. I believe that alone changed countless minds.

Elon Musk is indeed, one of the saviors of our republic.




 
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If Musk can DOGE the Federal Government to any kind of actual reduction in the insane amount of bureaucracy that now exists, then I dont care if he is the reincarnation of Lenin!


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Elons spiraling started because people pointed out his overuse of H1Bs, after a few comments he and Trump made. People are accusing him of making India great, rather than America. Work visas are abused and people are sick of it.
 
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Elons spiraling started because people pointed out his overuse of H1Bs, after a few comments he and Trump made. People are accusing him of making India great, rather than America. Work visas are abused and people are sick of it.



Or, Elons spiraling began when he started supporting Trump. And the media did what it does from there and people that over saturate themselves with “news” and draw conclusions that the “news” want them to.

And such.

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If you truly value free speech: You should, IMO.



I disagree. Like any other social media application they harvest your data, build a profile about you, and sell it off to highest bidder. What’s Twatter worth again financially? Ok then, it’s worth that, yet it’s “free” for users to use? Do the math. When they don’t harvest your data and sell it off I’ll join it for personal use. It’s either that or they write me a check for using it because they are selling my data. I like Elon, and I like what he has done for the platform but lets keep it 100.



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No worries about Elon. He’s done a lot for our country. We owe him a debt of gratitude.

Besides, we know the price of freedom is eternal vigilance, and we’ll stay vigilant.
 
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Welp, there is that........


https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1941789385185182136



https://x.com/AmericaPartyX/st.../1941897605362921699



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https://www.newsmax.com/newsfr...dkt_nbr=010102fnasco

Influencers Shun Musk's New 'America Party'

Billionaire Elon Musk’s attempt to establish a counter-Republican "America Party" is brand new. Already, a number of conservative social media influencers are expressing displeasure at the move.

Musk said he started the party after his falling out with President Donald Trump over what he said was not enough federal spending cuts in the "one big beautiful bill" Trump signed into law on Friday. Musk posted on Monday that "we live in a one-party country — the PORKY PIG PARTY!!"

Musk hasn’t said whether he wants to take away from the Republican Party base or build the party with people disenfranchised with the Democratic Party or even independents.

A filing reported by the Federal Election Commission shows the America Party has indeed been established. In the fine print the filing notes: “Candidate Name: Elon Reeve Musk.”

Mediaite reported a large number of conservative social media influencers who support Trump’s MAGA are not yet swayed. One said, “I respect Elon Musk. I like the guy. I think he's a great man of history. BUT this third party crap of his serves the Dems ... and the Dems alone.”

Another agreed on the potential of a third party siphoning votes away from the GOP. “I used to think Elon was awesome. But he's become evil. Or maybe he always was evil. It's all just his ego.”

One influencer said it appeared the Musk-supported party was intended to pull the rug out from under Trump. “A third party that hands power to the Democrats, who’ll impeach Trump, defund ICE, and throw open the border, will devastate this country. Unlike you, real Americans don’t want to go to Mars. We want to save America.”

Trump said on Tuesday that if Musk was so concerned about reduced government spending, maybe there should be a closer review by the Department of Government Efficiency of how much Musk’s business enterprises receive through government contracts and subsidies. “No more Rocket launches, Satellites, or Electric Car Production, and our Country would save a FORTUNE. Perhaps we should have DOGE take a good, hard, look at this? BIG MONEY TO BE SAVED!!"




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You guys flip flop and react to everything. Take a chill pill and relax. He's South African and an oddball genius, not your savior.


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Elon comes across as wacky and unstable. He did help the president. But he is not presidential material. Not even close.
While very smart about some things. This is a stunt and a dumb one.
This shows a side of him that is both wacky and unstable.
He needs to get a grip. But I do not think that is who he is.
The president just needs to ignore him.

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