My view of the most significant factors of recent elections by technology:

2016: Trump's team mastered data mining to reach voters on Facebook, Twitter and other social media.

2020: The Media cartel figured out ^^^ and turned the tables and manipulated media to stifle the conservative message. The infancy of ballot harvesting begins with the Dems making an impact.

2024: Predict the ballot harvesting to be a MAJOR battle of who wins along with more manipulation by the Media Cartels albeit weakened with the new Twitter and the world knows what they are doing.

2028: Predict that AI in some form will be a factor.

Somehow I wish it could just be a battle of ideas and theories (not that it was ever purely that way) but that will never happen.

Drama and conspiracy theories will rule.

2024 will be my last election to vote in. There after it is for a new generation.

I concur with my wife when she said that if Biden is elected to a second term then you know it was rigged for sure.

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2024: Predict the ballot harvesting to be a MAJOR battle of who wins along with more manipulation by the Media Cartels albeit weakened with the new Twitter and the world knows what they are doing.

FWIW, I couldn't agree with this more. In essence it's a natural continuation of the data mining battle.

Based on what? You do know that there are significantly more registered Democrats than Republicans, correct? If everything was determined by direct popular vote, the Dems would control everything.

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:
I concur with my wife when she said that if Biden is elected to a second term then you know it was rigged for sure.

There was nothing completely new in 2020. It was the tipping point. Critical mass was achieved.

The deep state went all in for Biden, but they certainly were involved in trying to help Hillary in 2016. The media played their part, dutifully reporting in a way to support the left, but they've been openly biased for decades.

Some things were new, such as widespread changes to voting procedures to benefit D candidates. Under cover of COVID CRISIS!!! they were able to push through obviously unConstitutional and illegal changes. But there is nothing new about the party in power trying to tilt the table.

What strikes me is that so much was done openly without any sense of shame.

In 2024 I predict AI and deep fakes will both be employed. AI to create messaging that resonates. Deep fakes to confuse or instill false beliefs in the voters. I expect the left's organized campaign to use these, as well as unorganized supporters to pump them out. I expect there will be a smattering from the right.

Technology can be used to fight technology. The R team needs to be nimble and fierce in responding.

I hope there are many experts monitoring the electronics during the election. I believe a lot of true cheating went undetected in 2020. Monitoring the systems should deter altering votes.

Skynet will become self aware and launch it's attack long before the 2028 elections so it's all moot.

It seems technology has made it into a race of who can be the most savvy in manipulation of the current trends of media. From an anthropological standpoint it will be very interesting to see how the masses of tomorrow are hooked deeper than those of today. From a realist's standpoint it's quite terrifying.

I told friends years ago that elections would be determined through social media and they all laughed at me. They still do but for other reasons now.

Social media does weird things to normal, rational people and I've seen people that I've respected for years lose their minds over things posted on social media before they even vetted out what they were outraged about by doing a simple internet search.

For some reason people believe everything they see on social media these days.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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2024: Predict the ballot harvesting to be a MAJOR battle of who wins along with more manipulation by the Media Cartels albeit weakened with the new Twitter and the world knows what they are doing.

FWIW, I couldn't agree with this more. In essence it's a natural continuation of the data mining battle.

Ballot harvesting is the key for Democrats in stealing elections.

In 2016, CA Governor Jerry Brown signed into law AB1921 which legalized widespread ballot harvesting. Before, only a family member or someone living in the same household was permitted to drop off mail ballots for a voter, but the new law allowed anyone – including political operatives – to collect and return them for a voter. This enabled Democrats to get every state House seat in Orange County, a long time Republican stronghold, in the 2018 midterms. There were reports of many people showing up with hundreds of ballots in hand, a story we have heard and seen on video in 2020 and 2022 across the nation. But it was the CA midterms that changed the game for Democrats, with many CA districts taking days and weeks to count the ballots, and this was pre-Covid.

This paved the way for what we have now, with a large number of people accepting the new tactics as a new normal protocol in elections. "Stuffing the ballot box" is the new paradigm, and it worked for the Democrats.

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Originally posted by oddball:

Ballot harvesting is the key for Democrats in stealing elections.

This paved the way for what we have now, with a large number of people accepting the new tactics as a new normal protocol in elections. "Stuffing the ballot box" is the new paradigm, and it worked for the Democrats.

The sad part is that the Repubs will need to deploy the same cheating tactics or get left in the dust.
Since complaining and documenting the truckloads of ballots being dumped did absolutely nothing to convince anyone - the join 'em since you can't beat 'em (at their own game) rules.

Every bill the Treasury prints is individually serialized and has multiple security measures. Engrave a few sets of new plates and print out ballots big enough to cover all the races. Manually count them with elections officials standing by. Problem solved.

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Problem solved.

Which is why it won't happen.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Based on what? You do know that there are significantly more registered Democrats than Republicans, correct? If everything was determined by direct popular vote, the Dems would control everything.

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:
I concur with my wife when she said that if Biden is elected to a second term then you know it was rigged for sure.

If you were a democrat would you vote for joe again after seeing what he’s done to America? Do you think the path we are on is what old school rank and file democrats want for our country?

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:

If you were a democrat would you vote for joe again after seeing what he’s done to America? Do you think the path we are on is what old school rank and file democrats want for our country?

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Sure they will, especially the ones getting their free shit. All the fine folks from Mexico, and Single moms with 2 kids. I suspect quite a few government workers and those on social security (since he raised S.S. income), Indian reservations. They don't care about America like we do.

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Based on what? You do know that there are significantly more registered Democrats than Republicans, correct? If everything was determined by direct popular vote, the Dems would control everything.

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:
I concur with my wife when she said that if Biden is elected to a second term then you know it was rigged for sure.

If you were a democrat would you vote for joe again after seeing what he’s done to America? Do you think the path we are on is what old school rank and file democrats want for our country?

Yes, democrats will vote for Biden again absolutely, because 1) they like what Biden "did" for the country, and 2) they hate Republican candidates. they will always vote Democrat to avoid any Republican, and they won't have to hold their noses when they do it because their noses are attached to their own filthy selves. If you're a shithead you will always vote for other democrat shitheads. Birds of a feather and all that. The "new" democrats outnumber the "old" democrats.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
You do know that there are significantly more registered Democrats than Republicans, correct?
If everything was determined by direct popular vote, the Dems would control everything.

Are you counting all the dead people and illegal aliens they register too?

IF I WERE A DEMOCRAT (which I am most decidedly not), if Biden got a primary challenge, depending on the challenger, I might vote from them. If Biden didn't get a challenge, or beat it in the primaries and got the nomination, I'd likely vote for him in the general, because I wouldn't want the Republican to win

Being a Republican, I this is what I generally do on the Republican side. I vote for who I want in the primaries. Even if they don't win, I vote for the Republican nominee in the genera.

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Based on what? You do know that there are significantly more registered Democrats than Republicans, correct? If everything was determined by direct popular vote, the Dems would control everything.

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:
I concur with my wife when she said that if Biden is elected to a second term then you know it was rigged for sure.

If you were a democrat would you vote for joe again after seeing what he’s done to America? Do you think the path we are on is what old school rank and file democrats want for our country?

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Originally posted by smschulz:

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Originally posted by oddball:

Ballot harvesting is the key for Democrats in stealing elections.

This paved the way for what we have now, with a large number of people accepting the new tactics as a new normal protocol in elections. "Stuffing the ballot box" is the new paradigm, and it worked for the Democrats.

The sad part is that the Repubs will need to deploy the same cheating tactics or get left in the dust.
Since complaining and documenting the truckloads of ballots being dumped did absolutely nothing to convince anyone - the join 'em since you can't beat 'em (at their own game) rules.

Ballot harvesting is one thing; going to an old people's home and "helping" them fill out their ballots is another thing.

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Originally posted by Rey HRH:


Ballot harvesting is one thing; going to an old people's home and "helping" them fill out their ballots is another thing.

It is worse than that. My sister is in a senior living facility with significant cognitive issues. She is incompetent and I am her guardian. Somebody signed her up for a mail in ballot, and nobody would mistake her for being capable of understanding what/who she was voting for. Luckily she had no idea what the ballot was and handed it to me with a pile of other papers she didn't know what to do with.

There's no way to know who signed her up, but likely numerous residents were "assisted" in filling out ballots there.

You shouldn't vote that way Dave......