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WASHINGTON (AP) — Conserving oil is no longer an economic imperative for the U.S., the Trump administration declares in a major new policy statement that threatens to undermine decades of government campaigns for gas-thrifty cars and other conservation programs.

The position was outlined in a memo released last month in support of the administration's proposal to relax fuel mileage standards. The government released the memo online this month without fanfare.

Growth of natural gas and other alternatives to petroleum has reduced the need for imported oil, which "in turn affects the need of the nation to conserve energy," the Energy Department said. It also cites the now decade-old fracking revolution that has unlocked U.S. shale oil reserves, giving "the United States more flexibility than in the past to use our oil resources with less concern."

With the memo, the administration is formally challenging old justifications for conservation — even congressionally prescribed ones, as with the mileage standards. The memo made no mention of climate change. Transportation is the single largest source of climate-changing emissions.

President Donald Trump has questioned the existence of climate change, embraced the notion of "energy dominance" as a national goal, and called for easing what he calls burdensome regulation of oil, gas and coal, including repealing the Obama Clean Power Plan.

Despite the increased oil supplies, the administration continues to believe in the need to "use energy wisely," the Energy Department said, without elaboration. Department spokesmen did not respond Friday to questions about that statement.

Reaction was quick.

"It's like saying, 'I'm a big old fat guy, and food prices have dropped — it's time to start eating again,'" said Tom Kloza, longtime oil analyst with the Maryland-based Oil Price Information Service.

"If you look at it from the other end, if you do believe that fossil fuels do some sort of damage to the atmosphere ... you come up with a different viewpoint," Kloza said. "There's a downside to living large."

Climate change is a "clear and present and increasing danger," said Sean Donahue, a lawyer for the Environmental Defense Fund.

In a big way, the Energy Department statement just acknowledges the world's vastly changed reality when it comes to oil.

Just 10 years ago, in summer 2008, oil prices were peaking at $147 a barrel and pummeling the global economy. The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries was enjoying a massive transfer of wealth, from countries dependent on imported oil. Prices now are about $65.

Today, the U.S. is vying with Russia for the title of top world oil producer. U.S. oil production hit an all-time high this summer, aided by the technological leaps of horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing.

How much the U.S. economy is hooked up to the gas pump, and vice versa, plays into any number of policy considerations, not just economic or environmental ones, but military and geopolitical ones, said John Graham, a former official in the George W. Bush administration, now dean of the School of Public and Environmental Affairs at Indiana University.

"Our ability to play that role as a leader in the world is stronger when we are the strongest producer of oil and gas," Graham said. "But there are still reasons to want to reduce the amount we consume."

Current administration proposals include one that would freeze mileage standards for cars and light trucks after 2020, instead of continuing to make them tougher.

The proposal eventually would increase U.S. oil consumption by 500,000 barrels a day, the administration says. While Trump officials say the freeze would improve highway safety, documents released this month showed senior Environmental Protection Agency staffers calculate the administration's move would actually increase highway deaths.

"American businesses, consumers and our environment are all the losers under his plan," said Sen. Tom Carper, a Delaware Democrat. "The only clear winner is the oil industry. It's not hard to see whose side President Trump is on."

Administration support has been tepid to null on some other long-running government programs for alternatives to gas-powered cars.

Bill Wehrum, assistant administration of the EPA's Office of Air and Radiation, spoke dismissively of electric cars — a young industry supported financially by the federal government and many states — this month in a call with reporters announcing the mileage freeze proposal.

"People just don't want to buy them," the EPA official said.

Oil and gas interests are campaigning for changes in government conservation efforts on mileage standards, biofuels and electric cars.

In June, for instance, the American Petroleum Institute and other industries wrote eight governors, promoting the dominance of the internal-combustion engine and questioning their states' incentives to consumers for electric cars.

Surging U.S. and gas production has brought on "energy security and abundance," Frank Macchiarola, a group director of the American Petroleum Institute trade association, told reporters this week, in a telephone call dedicated to urging scrapping or overhauling of one U.S. program for biofuels.

Fears of oil scarcity used to be a driver of U.S. energy policy, Macchiarola said.

Thanks partly to increased production, "that pillar has really been rendered essentially moot," he said.



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Hmmmm.... All this cheap oil has not reached the Yoop. 2.94 a gallon last night.
Must be because our dog sleds have to haul it to us.


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It is the cost to retrieve the oil. Oil is all around us, it just has to be economically feasible to go get it. That and taxes is why it's still $3/gallon or more. Saudi Arabia could sell it for $20/barrel and still make a killing but they don't.

As far as the message goes, even Bill Nye admitted that we'll never run out of oil. Suck it Bill!





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Tell me it's not so.
Forty years ago they were saying the world would be out of oil within twenty years.
Al Gore & Co. wouldn't be lying to us, would they?
And what about Florida being underwater in a decade or two due to warming?


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Line item by line item his administration is rolling back 0bama’s idiotic policies. Now, whomever bitches the loudest self-identifies themselves as the swamp and it’s whack-a-mole time.



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Line item by line item his administration is rolling back 0bama’s idiotic policies.




Policies like a wealth redistribution scheme masquerading as a carbon tax to save the planet. Sorry Barry, kiss another piece of your legacy goodbye.
 
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Transportation is the single largest source of climate-changing emissions.


I thought it was cow farts.


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I have zero problems with efficiency in cars. Global warming and scarcity of oil aside, I don't want to breath smog, look what its done to third world places like China and San Francisco. That being said I am 100% against artificial government mandates for fuel efficiency. I don't want to pay 15-20% more for a car that gets 40mpg vs 30mpg. New car costs have ballooned due to government mandates and useless technology.

I prefer to let market forces do it, which it will. While I don't need fuel efficiency, there are plenty of people that do want more efficient cars. Car markers should be free to make cars that consumers want with limited government interference, I'm fine with low sulfer fuel and lead free fuel, heck I'm even fine with some government limitations on efficiency. The incremental costs for each mile more of efficiency is not a straight line, it's gets stupid expensive the more efficient we get.



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I would burn more but the price sucks and another thing,get the alcohol in bottles and out of my gasoline.
 
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^^^^^^

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, I don't want to breath smog, look what its done to third world places like China and San Francisco.


Actually San Fran enjoys pretty good air quality due to ocean breezes which pushes SF pollution into the San Joaquin Valley, so places like Stockton, Modesto, Fresno and Bakersfield suffer It has more to do with topography. Similarly, the Wasatch Front in Utah suffers from horrible smog during winter months because of inversion layers.

That being said, I too would prefer market forces to dictate fuel efficiency norms. Some places in China have such horrible smog, gov't essentially mandate that EV/zero emission vehicles are the only viable cars to be purchased.

Oil production will remain strong as long as prices remain moderately strong.


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I would love to see the ethanol mandate evaporate (pun intended).


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Any of you old guys remember "Doin' the 55"? It was a public service announcement from the 1970s. Teenagers riding around in a car, so freakin' happy- elated, even- that the speed limit was 55 MPH.


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Any of you old guys remember "Doin' the 55"? It was a public service announcement from the 1970s. Teenagers riding around in a car, so freakin' happy- elated, even- that the speed limit was 55 MPH.


I remember it,it took forever to get anywhere.


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Ten year old kid in the spot looks into the camera and sings "How 'bout savin' some gas for ME??"


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Mid-Grade for me this morning was $2.61/gallon with my Kroger $0.10/gallon savings. It's been said time and again that we have a production problem and the last thing Dubyuh should have done before leaving office was to encourage the construction of about 15 refineries. 'Cuz we know that Onumbnutz wasn't going to do it. And I've heard it takes like 10 years to build/open a refinery? Yeah...we're waaaaaaaay behind the curve on that. [sigh..... Roll Eyes ]



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US says conserving oil is no longer an economic imperative

That's true for as long as we promote oil production (and the reserves hold out).

If a true-believer environmentalist wacko ever gets in, and starts shutting down fracking, stops leases on public lands, shuts down off-shore drilling, taxes fossil fuels to subsidize 'renewables', instituting 'carbon credits, etc. we could go back to shortages and ridiculous energy prices in a NY minute.

What IS an economic imperative is to push harder and increase the momentum toward freer markets. The energy market, for sure, among all the others.
 
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