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Oriental Redneck |
Not just civil war, not just full blown civil war, but full blown hot civil war. This person should be a drama writer. Lol. Q | |||
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bigger government = smaller citizen |
Was the phrase "heaving bosom" used? “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
We are in for a complete collapse of the economy. And to shooting commies, I’m in-but where and when, is the big question. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Did you read the article? I'm not the author but I'm not suggesting that and I don't know of anyone who is suggesting that. Here are two relevant paragraphs:
I disagree with the “currently hurling down a path on a fast track to a full blown, hot civil war" language. What I see is the apathy which the author expresses in that second paragraph. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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"Member" |
Lots of murder, assassination, death squads, maybe. "Race war" is the streets with large groups of people fighting and dying, maybe. Civil war, unlikely. | |||
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Member |
This sounds more like a fever dream than any reality. Problem is the divide really isn't between the states anymore, its basically urban and rural. Really couldn't be a division of two sides for some kind of hot civil war. I think instead the government and both parties keep ratcheting up government control and autocracy through things like Patriot Act, government snooping, all the other systems and ways the Feds now have ALL your info (literally). I work for the feds as a investigator and its insane how much we know about everyone, way more than you'd ever imagine. I can use various systems and not only know every gun you've ever bought to all your crimes and public data and internal data to everyone you associate with in personal and business life. +I'm not even a very important level investigator. There's systems I can't even explain they give so much info, like its literally illegal for me to use their names, even internally, we call them "confidential informants"-when its really a computer system that has amazing amounts of search capability on people, and there are many. What I see from the inside of the federal government in my opinion is... The US screwed is in the end. We are on a slippery slope sliding towards tyranny, with each party only taking more liberties with each time they take control. We will not fall in a fire between liberty and autocracy, but slowly descend into Tyranny. If it was used by the wrong government, we could be China with a few law changes. I don't think the people will stand against the federal government nor will they "win" if they do. | |||
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Raptorman |
Oh I'm VERY familiar with those sons of bitches. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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Member |
Sure you can. | |||
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Member |
So we've both been here over 20 years and this is your response, no wonder you haved 8900 posts, all trash. Honestly that's an an insult, so here is one back. I don't come down to the street corner you work and slap the dick out of your mouth. and every friend you call, you're business personal contacts, crimes commited, what level of threat you could be, where you get your insurance, all your income, it's hard to even list all that I see. But true only if assigned, I get about 70 cases at all times so theres a lot of work and no time for bs. I obviously (well it should be) can't just browse random peoples accounts for info. I'm a field investigator I have to know all this when I go out, to be sure of any danger etc where I might need backup. | |||
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safe & sound |
Sounds like the next civil war might be humans vs. computers. | |||
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His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
I don't see a civil war in this country on the order of the 1861-65 one, i.e., states breaking off to form their own country. I can see more widespread and more violent rioting that would make those of 2020 seem trivial by comparison. There are several potential causes for this, including, but not limited to: food shortages if the WEF gains enough politicians' ears and succeeds in fully implementing its agenda; not being able to afford food because of runaway inflation; the government unable to fund any welfare programs like EBT/food stamps and even Social Security; crime committed by illegals triggering vigilantism; Antifa and other groups expanding beyond a few large Democrat-run cities where they've been previously confined into the suburbs and the country. | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
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His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
Something I don't see happening is government JBTs going door to door to confiscate guns, even if somehow confiscation hypothetically were to become law. There are just too many guns and not enough people to take them. This is to our advantage, but not as much as one might think. We like to say "we've got all the guns and ammunition, they don't know which bathroom to use," but you can't assume that out of hundreds of millions of guns and billions of rounds of ammo, we have all of them. | |||
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Official forum SIG Pro enthusiast |
I personally hope I don't live to see an American civil war in my life. None of us will come out any better from such an event. People romanticize such things but they have no fucking idea what it would actually be like. That would not be fun at all. Ask anyone who as served abroad in a failed state/war zone what it’s like. No, I don’t want that here. No thanks. I think things will begin to turn around before it gets to that point. But I am an optimistic person by nature. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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delicately calloused |
The debt is a time bomb. Regardless of any other pressure point or schism, the debt keeps ticking toward economic correction. If there were no other ignition point, political, ideological, racial or cultural, the time bomb will still detonate if not diffused. What comes after is the stuff of apocalyptic novels. What happens when people who depend on government money don’t get their check or if they do, it doesn’t get paid? What happens when those people are three days hungry and their babies are crying? What happens if they establish a target for their desperation and anger? What happens when an immoral society becomes desperate? We could suffer any number of conflicts before the Damocles' debt sword hanging over our heads eventually falls. But only one potential disaster is certain without an intervention. An intervention is exactly what we are not allowed to force. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Member |
IF conditions were such for a real civil war, the people are too soft for any kind of discomfort remotely approaching that level of conflict. IF some crazies wanted to start one, they would think it could be done virtually on their stupid cell phones, not one of them would pick up a real gun and fight for their lives, they would embrace a dictator before they would think of pulling a trigger. Are there Americans who would if called to ? Sure there are. But most young people are way too soft to sign up for anything let alone anything that counts. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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Political Cynic |
I don’t think it will be a full blown civil war however I do think there will be collections of targets. It might only be a few weeks or over a few months but I’m sure that a bunch of people aren’t going to be happy when it starts. | |||
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Raptorman |
That is laughable. The jackbooted brown shirt that "interviewed" me used it as intimidation to be a good little witness when I had already volunteered. Don't lie to yourself. You ARE NOT the good guy. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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Member |
The majority of my guns were purchased or traded in private transactions with no paperwork . I'm not one of those dorks that lists his gun collection in his sig line . Nobody knows every gun I ever purchased or what I have in my possession right now .I'm very careful to keep it that way .This message has been edited. Last edited by: selogic, | |||
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Wait, what? |
A country in violent turmoil plays directly into the hands of a corrupt government. The globalist backed leftists would like nothing better than violence between leftists and conservatives so that they could blame the conservatives and initiate creeping, sweeping gun control to “save everyone from themselves”. Like espousing others than themselves take illegals into their homes, leftists would suffer buyers remorse when said government tells them they need to comply too. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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